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State of the CF Union 2021 Survey Results

April 23, 2021 By Michaela Light Leave a Comment

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    • We have a HUGE investment in CF Report Builder. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE suggest to ADOBE that the support for those never ever goes away! It's be awesome if they could re-invest in the CF Report Builder project and make a new version of the IDE!
    • Personally I enjoy the product. However, new team I am on are constantly looking for code examples to work with other technology (i.e. Docusign, etc). They would love to see more examples. I guess this is the way developers are going now. copy code
    • Thank you for sincerely conducting the survey every year.
    • I would add I don't know to some questions.
    • Athena is coming to us, across the Aether and thru the Stratus. 11/11!! Keep up these surveys! Thanks, and be well!
    • I try and try to dispel the misperceptions about CFML when talking with clients and other developers. I have made converts of a couple of my circle of developers I use for freelance on a regular basis. I have been fortunate that the clients we do CFML work for are Healthcare adjacent and they have seen CFML solutions in places they work.
    • Never had a problem with ColdFusion, but lots of new employees certainly dismiss it.
    • Question 44 doesn't apply but I was required to submit an answer. I checked "Other," which is not accurate because nobody is telling us not to use CFML.
    • Not a fan of CF
    • Question 49: 100% of my server side code time is in CF. The rest is in React for our front end development.
    • CF Makes me sad because Adobe seems stuck: they've reduced the user base so less revenue, but they need revenue to justify supporting the product. I don't know the exit or the right move on this. It's up to them. But yeah, it's not showing growth because it's not their focus (their fault) but they can not play with pricing because they need that to sustain the specific Adobe division.
    • The biggest issue with CFML dev was and continues to be, Adobe itself. They just don't care enough about the product, and if they don't take it seriously how can anybody else do that? Having a hidden away team in India do all the development, with no community involvement whatsoever, results in features and updates that just serve to maintain the status quo for their existing clients, but are not bringing in any new devs or big clients.
    • documentation can be better (can't it always?). The examples provided are generally not useful nor realistic nor do they show some of the more complex aspects of various functions. Better cfscript documentation needed.
    • Might be good to ask what modules people are using from ForgeBox.
    • Need an IDE, like visual studio and need a debugger, breakpoints like visual studio
    • It would be interesting to have a question about which devs/blogs people read or follow on Twitter etc...
    • We would never - under any circumstances - pay for a web programming language/platform. If not for Lucee, CFML would have been in the rear view mirror ages ago.
    • Thanks for doing this! I look forward to seeing the results.
    • I really love CF and worked with it for many years ... BUT: I think the licensing model of CF is killing this language. the kind of thinking (8 cores for one enterprise-license) is out of todays needs and reality - even hard to find a server with 8 cores only :-))) i switched to VMs and there the costs of the license it is even more strange to me. it should be at least countable for 32 VM-cores or more ... young developers will choose other languages and technologies.
    • None.
    • No
    • stop using AWS products as categories, use 'serverless' for instance as each cloud has it's own name and AWS is a dogs breakfast atm which is why we're never intending to use them again. Nothing about using message queues and other tech here. Nothing about ML either. Also no talk of technology stacks really around cf, what WAF other than cf-based ones, etc
    • There's a few sets radio/checkbox answers here that could benefit from "dunno" / "N/A"
    • REST in Peace!
    • I love ColdFusion but it is being destroyed. Please put ColdFusion back in the USA with better marketing and sales and better communicators and better support and better training. Hire professionals. Hire back in the USA for better coders and better coding. Testing. Test this stuff please. Get out and explain that this is a JVM or Java fronting language.
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1. What version of CFML Engine do you use? (Check all that apply)

Others

No entries match your request.

2. What type of CFML Engine are you running? (Check all that apply)

3. What CF Server OS are you using (Check all that apply)?

4. What OS do you run on your laptop/PC? (Check all that apply)

Others

git for windows
Raspberry Pi

5. What browsers/client platforms do you support in your apps? (Check all that apply)

Others

All browsers basically
Vivaldi
Amazon Silk (Dissenter might be coming soon)
Chromium
We have no official statement on this issue.
Any standards compliant browser
Vivaldi
All - they should support the standard I code vs the standard 😉

6. Databases you use? (Check all that apply)

Others

Derby embedded
Derby
Oracle
Firebase
FoxPro
ElasticSearch
FoxPRO
Azure SQL Database
Firebird
R
Vertica, Teradata
Snowflake

7. What MVC Frameworks do you use? (Check all that apply)

Others

heavily modified older version of Fusebox (moving to FW/1)
We have built our own FW.
Awaf
CF's built-in application.cfc/.cfm framework
FarCry Core
MVVM
ANFrameworks
Proprietary

8. What ColdFusion-based CMS do you use? (Check all that apply)

Others

pipi6
InSite
imaginEngine
PowerSites
TWD CMS (proprietary)
iCM
WordPress ( because your option was don't use a CMS )
We use a CMS, but it is not ColdFusion based (strictly speaking); it is Adobe Experience Manager version 6.5.
Bizoneo - Wandsoft

9. What JavaScript libraries do you use? (Check all that apply)

Others

So many...
Alpine.js
Svelte
Quasar
Svelte
YASMF
Libraries are for the weak.
Inertia.js
Kendo UI
Straight JavaScript - Ajax Proxy
jEasyUI
underscore, lodash, moment

10. What CSS frameworks do you use? (Check all that apply)

Others

box
WET, Material Design, etc.
material
Quasar
Boilerplate
Material
Tachyons
SemanticUI
normalize.css
Bulma
material-ui
semanticui
Material
Bulma
Bulma
Sencha ExtJS, Bulma
Kendo UI
bulma
Material Design
Semantic UI

11. What CFC dependency injection frameworks and tools do you use? (Check all that apply)

Others

Lightwire

12. Which persistence frameworks do you use? (Check all that apply)

Others

We have built our own.
Mura ORM
Ortus QB
traditional sql code
ANFrameworks
Hibernate, in Groovy/Java layer
dao/norm
Lucee ORM
Mura Objects
Custom

13. What testing and mocking frameworks do you use? (Check all that apply)

Others

cypress
cucumber
Cypress.js
Cypress
cypress
Cypress.io
cypress
Selenium IDE
postman
Cypress.io, k6.io
Internal
Cypress

14. What type of CF Mobile development frameworks are you using? (Check all that apply)

Others

Google Flutter
Flutter
Responive Web Design
Flutter + Titanium
flutter
React Native (not CF Mobile Dev)
Quasar
Flutter
Again, not all these are CF based... come on.
CSS custom
Not using CF mobile development framework; our CMS developers provide this for us
Flutter
HTML5 Responsive site
Nuxt.js, Quasar
React Native
Quasar
Apache Flex/AIR
React Native
Flutter
Quasar
Flutter
React Native
Flutter

15. What miscellaneous frameworks/tools are you using? (Check all that apply)

Others

FusionReactor
cfstatic,taffy
Selenium IDE
Kendo UI
FusionReactor
Taffy
home grown api logging utility
sentry.io

16. What CF features do you use for code reuse? (Check all that apply)

Others

No entries match your request.

17. What do you use for source code control? (Check all that apply)

Others

Azure Devops Repos
unfuddle
Gitea
Azure DevOps
Microsoft Visual Sourcesafe
Backup file before edit + automated backups
Heptapod
AccuRev
Azure DevOps
Dropbox
CrashPlan
Azure DevOps
Helix Team Hub
Assembla Git
pure git with local and own custom remote repository
Git
GiT and beanstalkapp
Perforce Surround
We built-in our source code within our application
homegrown
Azure DevOps Git
Azure Repos
Git on Microsoft DevOps

18. What tools/IDEs do you use? (Check all that apply)

Others

kate
COLD FUSION REPORT BUILDER!
vi
BBEdit
VS Codium
Wordpad
Cloud9
Coda
textTastic, XCode
TextMade
vim
UltraEdit
Coda
vim

19. What browser Dev Tools do you use? (Check all that apply)

Others

"Inspect" app on ipad for Safari Introspection
Vue Dev Tools
Opera
Opera Dev Tools
Vivaldi & Opera

20. What do you use to build REST APIs? (Check all that apply)

Others

we have built our own REST design
MAC Paw
Home
FarCry API plugin
Mach-II Endpoints
Powernap

21. What caching solutions are you using? (Check all that apply)

Others

nginx reverse proxy
CloudFront
Cfcache
Varnish
homegrown
StackPath
cacheGet/cachePut
Home Grown
Custom built
ANFrameworks
ScopeCache
In-house written TTL cache
Nginx
cf_cache udf

22. How many years have you used CFML? (Check one)

23. How many years have you used OO? (Check one)

24. Other languages/environments you use? (Check all that apply)

Others

XML, xsd, xslt
Powershell
Dart, Flutter
Go
Swift, C
Go
Dart
Elixir
Cobol basic dataflex
GoLang
Go
Rust
SQL
powershell, bash
Objective-C
Dart, Xojo
Go
COBOL
Elm
Bash
Scala
ActionScript
Go
VB.NET

25. How many CF developers at your organization? (Check one)

Others

50+

26. How many total employees at your organization? (Check one)

27. How often do you attend ColdFusion User Group meetings? (Check one)

28. What CF related topics are you interested in learning this year? (Check all that apply)*

Others

NoSQL Databases
cross-compatible CFML
Lambda should be 'serverless'
REST
k8s
will coldfusion continue or finally die

29. Which CF conferences will/did you attend this year? (Check all that apply)* (Check all that apply)

Others

Cf developer week
ColdFusion Developer Week
Comdex
ColdFusion Summit (Online)
Not sure, but I am itching to do something.
Meetup's
Depends on timing and cost
vueconf
This year is hard with the pandemic this question should have been change

30. What online CF communities do you participate in? (Check all that apply)*

Others

ColdFusion Meetup
Google Mura group
Meetup...
exercism.io site for learning to code
Coldfusion CFML Brasil
reddit.com/r/coldfusion/
Lucee Dev forum. Also, my own blog, if you can count that.
Preside Slack
Preside slack
cfbrazil WhatsApp Group
ColdFusion Meetup Group
CFMeetup (Online)

31. CF Open Source  (Check all that apply)*

Others

open source approval currently in flux
do not use or participate with
We use the best tool for the job. We don't care (or even check) to see if it's open source.
X
.
None

32. I listen to the CF Alive podcast (Check one)*

33. I listen to the Modernize or Die Podcast (Check one) *

34. What types of DEVELOPMENT setups do you use? (Check all that apply)*

Others

Vagrant with Ansible
Parallels Desktop

35. What types of PRODUCTION deployments do you use? (Check all that apply)*

Others

Roll our own AWS Instances (not AMIs)
AWS EC2 running commandbox services
None of ya business
Digital Ocean
Azure Snaphot (same aws amis)
n/a
Kubernetes
AWS EC2
AWS - self built

36. What hosting services do you use for your PRODUCTION deployments? (Check all that apply)*

Others

gcp
Flexential
Google Cloud
We have our own hosting service
Glesys, SSD nodes
We no longer host externally accessible cf apps
IBM Cloud
VPS
netcup
Own network
AWS Lightsail (not EC2)
Google Cloud
Ionos
True
ovh
On-premise VMware virtual machines
Telehouse
None of ya business
LightEdge Datacenter
Converge
AIT
KCom
Raging wire
Zillion
Under
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37. What Docker Image(s) are you using, if applicable? (Check all that apply)

Others

We are exploring
SQL Server
I don't understand the question.
Percona, Elastic Search, Redis

38. What deployment/build tools do you use? (Check all that apply)*

Others

Homegrown
DeployHQ
Gradle
webpack
Bamboo
CodeDeploy
Deploybot
AWS Amplify
Terraform
Can't remember but it's free
Buddy
maven
AWS Codebuild, AWS Pipelines
Terraform, Buddy.works
webpack
buddy.works FTP pipeline
CodePipline and CodeDeploy
In House
ColdBox Elixir
AWS CodePipeline
AWS CodePipeline
AWS Codepipeline
Clojure scripts
Bamboo
Own tools
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39. What monitoring tools are you using? (Check all that apply)*

Others

Orion
home made
Dynatrace
Custom built monitoring tools
ColdFusion Server Monitor API
Alertra for server availability monitoring and test CF functionality with a quick CF computation
log rocket. not cf specific.
Montastic
Hack My CF
Zabbix
Pingdom
Azure app insights, Sentry one
UptimeRobot and Linode's LongView
icinga
PRTG
hosting company monitors
Sentry
SQLSentry
Solarwinds
Dynatrace
check_mk
PRTG
UptimeRobot
Zabbix, Sentry.io
icinga, prometheus
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40. How do you lock down your servers for security? (Check all that apply)*

Others

NIST guides
not my responsibility
Adobe CF Lockdown Tool
IIS Level
fuseguard
Also using WAF, Use Azure's AMAZING ISO standards checklists (in security centre)

41. Have your CF servers suffered from a hacking exploit in the last 2 years due to a CF-based vector? (Remember, this is anonymous) (Check all that apply)*

Others

N/A
Not sure - I hope not!
unknown
Don't know
Not that I am aware of.
not sure

42. Are you using or planning to use AWS Lambda (serverless) (Check all that apply)*

Others

Not my decision 🙂
I tried it - pretty cool
Don't know
Yes at some point in the future.
With NodeJS.
Maybe, but I don't make those decisions
Outside of scope of my job
Lambda without CFML
Not currently, but i just don't have a use case yet
No plans, but it is interesting.
Should be more generic... (serverless) rather than AWS fanboi questions as if everyone is on AWs when they are not.
Unsure at present
Aws
Don't know
AWS Lambda NodeJS
We use AWS Lambdas (primary nodejs, some python). Not looking to use CF Lambdas
If Adobe ever releases the missing parts;<(
Depends on application
Still researching
We use it for AWS API Gateway
Yes but haven't explored solutions

43. What aspects of CF are keeping you and/or your company using it? (Check all that apply)*

Others

Historical decision. Due to many apps developed on CF. Otherwise, would have probably chose another language.
Legacy code. Moving to .NET when we have to touch.
Love it
It's what I know
coldbox/ortus
don't understand? We do use it.
Ortus
Migrating away.
speed of execution
The CF systems/devs have a history of delivering projects on time. Previous attempts to replace us have led to shitty, un-extendable and expensive software
Good language/platform. Switching is expensive and there's little motivation to do so.
old apps written in cf, would not use it for new apps
Experience
More flexible than other languages (aka duck typing and alike)
Java integration
Faster, more flexible than other middleware.
Fast to code
Only developer, only language I know.
You should rewrite this question to "What aspects of CF keep you and/or your company using it?
Everything is already CFML and no reason to move away.
Easier to support many custom applications long term due to fewer library dependancies.
One of the top reasons is CommandBox. CFML has lost the edge in most areas, unfortunately.
We are migrating from CF
Fast to code in
Richness offered by ACF (PDF Generation, Spreadsheets, web sockets, etc)

44. What aspects of CF are preventing you or your company from embracing CF? (Check all that apply)*

Others

Moving to Drupal
NA
none
It's all good
Misconceptions of CF
Management decided years ago that CF was dead or dying. Mostly use .NET now.
Poor community
We embrace it
I <3 and embrace it.
commandbox no longer installs correctly
None. Question not worded correctly
?
My job likes the fact that I use CF.
None
we use it and like it.
We embrace CF
N/A
Adobe licensing was an issue. Moving towards 100% Lucee.
N/A
?
Adobe just doesn't care enough
CF developers are difficult to find and those experienced with large scale enterprise systems are nearing zero.
There is nothing preventing me...
bugs in CF, lack of professionalism
N/A

45.  What are your company’s plans for your technology stack, if any? (Check all that apply)*

If migrating FROM CFML to another language, please specify

Javascript (React)
Java (forced by upper management - I'll quit)
Python, PHP
js, React, .Net Core
Will use CFML AND Node.js, React and React Native
Organisation security restrictions and for centralizing expertise.
Not my decision. Early discussions
Moving to NodsJS, Spring Boot, Lambda
JavaScript, .net, php
ASP.NET Core
Depends on the options
Some clients want to move off CFML entirely.
node.js
Groovy
JS using Sails on Node
angular/azure
Node.js/TypeScript
Python
Python
Java
Express, NodeJS, Spring Boot
Typesript
Company wants to move to PHP and Drupal, yuck
Php
node.js
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If migrating from another language TO CFML, please specify

ASP.NET
Python
Java or .Net
Ruby on Rails
Na
.Net

46. What is your approximate salary range in USD? (Remember, this is anonymous) (Check one)

Others

Not from us
No
There is no other. I am retired so I code for free to small businesses that couldn't afford a database driven web application.
no coment

47.  What is your current arrangement for CF work? (Check all that apply)*

Others

Retainer
Self Employed (owner of company, not sole trader)

48. What percentage of your PROFESSIONAL development time is spent on CFML (as opposed to other languages)? (Check one)*

49.  What percentage of your HOBBY development time is spent on CFML (as opposed to other languages)? (Check one)*

50. Any additional comments/suggestions for the survey?

We have a HUGE investment in CF Report Builder.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE suggest to ADOBE that the support for those never ever goes away! It's be awesome if they could re-invest in the CF Report Builder project and make a new version of the IDE!

Personally I enjoy the product. However, new team I am on are constantly looking for code examples to work with other technology (i.e. Docusign, etc). They would love to see more examples. I guess this is the way developers are going now. copy code

Thank you for sincerely conducting the survey every year.

I would add I don't know to some questions.

Athena is coming to us, across the Aether and thru the Stratus. 11/11!! Keep up these surveys! Thanks, and be well!

I try and try to dispel the misperceptions about CFML when talking with clients and other developers. I have made converts of a couple of my circle of developers I use for freelance on a regular basis.
I have been fortunate that the clients we do CFML work for are Healthcare adjacent and they have seen CFML solutions in places they work.

Never had a problem with ColdFusion, but lots of new employees certainly dismiss it.

Question 44 doesn't apply but I was required to submit an answer. I checked "Other," which is not accurate because nobody is telling us not to use CFML.

Not a fan of CF

Question 49: 100% of my server side code time is in CF. The rest is in React for our front end development.

CF Makes me sad because Adobe seems stuck: they've reduced the user base so less revenue, but they need revenue to justify supporting the product. I don't know the exit or the right move on this. It's up to them. But yeah, it's not showing growth because it's not their focus (their fault) but they can not play with pricing because they need that to sustain the specific Adobe division.

The biggest issue with CFML dev was and continues to be, Adobe itself. They just don't care enough about the product, and if they don't take it seriously how can anybody else do that? Having a hidden away team in India do all the development, with no community involvement whatsoever, results in features and updates that just serve to maintain the status quo for their existing clients, but are not bringing in any new devs or big clients.

documentation can be better (can't it always?). The examples provided are generally not useful nor realistic nor do they show some of the more complex aspects of various functions. Better cfscript documentation needed.

Might be good to ask what modules people are using from ForgeBox.

Need an IDE, like visual studio and need a debugger, breakpoints like visual studio

It would be interesting to have a question about which devs/blogs people read or follow on Twitter etc...

We would never - under any circumstances - pay for a web programming language/platform. If not for Lucee, CFML would have been in the rear view mirror ages ago.

Thanks for doing this! I look forward to seeing the results.

I really love CF and worked with it for many years ...
BUT:
I think the licensing model of CF is killing this language. the kind of thinking (8 cores for one enterprise-license) is out of todays needs and reality - even hard to find a server with 8 cores only :-))) i switched to VMs and there the costs of the license it is even more strange to me. it should be at least countable for 32 VM-cores or more ...
young developers will choose other languages and technologies.

None.

No

stop using AWS products as categories, use 'serverless' for instance as each cloud has it's own name and AWS is a dogs breakfast atm which is why we're never intending to use them again.

Nothing about using message queues and other tech here. Nothing about ML either.

Also no talk of technology stacks really around cf, what WAF other than cf-based ones, etc

There's a few sets radio/checkbox answers here that could benefit from "dunno" / "N/A"

REST in Peace!

I love ColdFusion but it is being destroyed.

Please put ColdFusion back in the USA with better marketing and sales and better communicators and better support and better training. Hire professionals. Hire back in the USA for better coders and better coding. Testing. Test this stuff please.

Get out and explain that this is a JVM or Java fronting language.

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