State of the CF Union 2020 Survey (Partial Results)

Hello from Mexico! Viva CFML!

.net core seems like a great solution between C# and F# interop and the ability to write mobile apps in C# and F# and finding programmers is much less of an issue.

Supporting Lucee is the way forward for modern CFML and it should get primary placement in emails/comments/tweets/blogs/articles.
Getting and using Adobe CF isn't really an convenient way forward for students/modern devs (it's a turn off).

Yes - where are all the Udemy, Coursera, EdX, online courses, where are the WACK books and why did Forta and Camden ditch CF?, where are the new books on Amazon? Where are Amazon published reference books?

CF perceived dead as the marketing and training materials have not been updated since 2010.

That's 10 years ago and nothing since. therefore seems Dead.

Thank you for your work to make CF vibrant.

Need to expand this greatly to ask things like:

- Sector (education/government/corporate/agency/small business)
- Customer Sector (see above)
- Engine / Version (very useful)
- along with js frameworks (also pure javascript libs), should ask about microframeworks (aka http://microjs.com/#)
- What blogs do you read (ben nadel/adobe/ortus)
- What size apps do you build
- What ORM/DAO do you use

lots more but these would be a baseline...

Build IDE for this language

We are rebuilding our front-end in Vue.js/Quasar and leaving the CFML as an API backend

CF is viewed as cost probative for enterprise, not due to development times but due to infrastructure support and dev ops tooling.. security scanning(dast,sast) tools are limited/nonexistent. That which does exist are presumed to not be as robust even if they are supported (example: HP:fortify).

Installation and setup(think full dev ops) is also a barrier as infrastructure teams tend to be Microsoft or open source(linux) focused - meaning budgets are broken out to assess the cf cost in isolation and is always reported as higher operating costs and higher risk than is counterparts.

The move to lean agile teams operating in factory like fashion along with all of the separation of duties requirements means the entire pipeline would need to be staffed with people competent in there niche of cf expertise, not just development.

Adobe should market CF more and should focus on not loosing relations with the organisation already using it and should focus on it by highlighting benefits which organisations are not aware of because they only see the license cost and no one from Adobe is doing the job highlight the other side of using CF.

Finding ColdFusion work is almost impossible these days.

I run a customized version of Lucee 5.3 that I made which reduces the chance that it will ever become unsupported while I'm using it. I patched or removed several of the complexities and problems it had that I don't need. I'm Bruce Kirkpatrick, sometimes I talk on the Lucee forum. I don't see CFML as a third party thing to worry about anymore having made it my own thanks to the quality of the open source project and my desire to learn Java & JVM bytecode. I felt like it was more important to lock down what I need and keep it stable then to have new features, or bloat.

Easy integration with java

I think you should focus on making all current features 100% bulletproof before adding new features.

It is scary to update to new versions as things break. For example, I use a lot of PDF stuff and one of the upgrades changed how every PDF looked. Impossible to change hundreds of source files so I downgraded. Will work on it when I have time. New releases that have potential to break code should have a warning and tips on how to fix it

Great survey, long live CF (esp. Lucee)!

I love CFML, I've been using it since Macromedia owned it. We need a marketing campaign that let's the business world know that it's still here and still supported. No one other than CFML developers think it's still a thing.

I'd like to know how people are warding off attempts to move too low-code solutions like PowerApps.

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I maintained really good repute by providing QUALITY work on TIME.

How CFML handles the transition to serverless will determine its future viability. Adobe's refusal to allow anything but enterprise on the cloud negates a lot of the good work of the CF team.

Thanks.

Thanks for keeping the CF torch burning 🙂

cf still rocks. fast as fnck. i do financial stuff, things have gone 100% client/js. i still like cf. just need to be able to afford food for kids. cf stuff is becoming rare. beed in it since 1998 cf 2.0
Allaire like Jesus needs to return..

No

No.

Thank you