Contents
- Server Environment
- Your Environment
- Frameworks and Methodology
- Tools
- Your programming background
- ColdFusion Community
- Deployment
- Wrap up
- test
- test
- test
- test
- Question 44: What aspects of CF keep you and/or your company using it? (Check all that apply)** The answers don't make sense the way the question is asked
- Thanks for putting this together each year. We appreciate your hard work and dedication to the community!
- Would love to know if Adobe is going to update the CFExchange tags since MS is ending support for Basic Auth.
- The questions have been modernised since the last time I looked at this (which was last year, I think). Good work.
- Still waiting for full SQL support for query of queries (especially left join)
- I am french, need to know if they are Lucee users in France, and also CF users. To get a nearer relation.
- Continue with your great work! I was very positively moved by your talks about cold depression. It's been a great help!
- The entire cfml universe needs so much improvement with the onboarding of new developers. From a newbie perspective, its not very inviting or easy or modern.
- When you ask Standard or Enterprise, also ask how many servers and instances are run in production. Would like to know the scale of production installs. One standard? One enterprise with 2 or 3 instances? 10 enterprise servers, 8 instances per server?
- We are moving away from CFML. I wish it would be open sourced by adobe. It's time to move on. Personally I am already know the .NET which allows me to have better career and better salary.
- It was a good survey. I really liked the questions. We are a community in Turkey employing approximately 500 people. We have been developing Workcube for 20 years. We love the Coldfusion community.
- Feel like CF hit bottom a few years back and is having a modest resurgence. But it's not new people sadly, but people coming back to CF because it now offers features it previously lacked that forced them to leave the community. There's a real opportunity for CF to gain popularity with Lambda/serverless as the easy to use solution. I'm hopeful but realistic they might fumble the opportunity.
- We're currently beginning the transition from CF <= 2016 on three different OSs to CF 2021 on Windows.
- Answers based on previous employer. Working with CF was harmful to my career because of low usage. Now working with node.js express. So nice to use same language in both front and back.
- Convert the survey to be a mobile-first or friendly typeform type experience. Organize the questions between mandatory and optional Ask what people are looking for in 2022 from Lucee/CF Thanks for all your work in doing this 🙂
- ColdFusion is supposedly on a comeback trajectory. Is there any evidence to support this rumor?
- Might be a good idea to ask if the person answering does only in house work (ie, a developer for a company that has a lot of Coldfusion projects) or works in a code shop that does CF work for client companies, or is an independent contractor. Also in addition to salary, ask what hourly rate contractors make. I've done both and it's a pretty big difference.
- Check to see if participant is actually using cold fusion right at the start and curtail survey if they are not..
- Adobe too slow fixing the bugs and far behind the features, tools compare to NodeJS. Plus license cost is too high. Coldfusion perceive as dead language.
- No - thanks for coordinating it
- Most of us in my small local CF community feel that Adobe is not fully committed to CF. It does not market it as a great alternative to existing platforms, it is very slow to launch new versions compatible with new OS versions, its cloud/serverless offering is lacking, it is slow to adopt trends (i.e.: it will probably take it about 5 more years to integrate with the Ethereum blockchain and NFTs), they no longer support visual development with Dreamweaver, and many other little things.
- Join the CF Alive revolution
Below are the partial results to date for the 2022 State of the CF Union survey. If you missed the survey you can take it here. See how you compare with other CFML developers. Discover what most developers use for tools, languages, database and development methods.
Can you help? If you have a blog, are on a ColdFusion list, LinkedIn, Facebook, Google group please share the survey so that we can get a more complete picture of the current State of the CF Union. Thanks!
And if you have not yet taken this years survey you can do so here.
Server Environment
1. What version of CFML Engine do you use? (Check all that apply)
Others
None; I no longer use CF due to community issues |
None at this moment |
New Atlanta's BlueDragon.NET 9 |
2. What type of CFML Engine are you running? (Check all that apply)
3. What CF Server OS are you using (Check all that apply)?
Your Environment
4. What OS do you run on your laptop/PC? (Check all that apply)
Others
Linux on Vagrant |
Pop!_OS |
5. What browsers/client platforms do you support in your apps? (Check all that apply)
Others
We don't *not* support one. Most browsers play nice now, but we test on the main ones. |
Edge Chromium |
Postman |
Don't specifically target browser support, but don't push the boat our with our JS/CSS |
N/A |
Any browser |
Not sure I follow. Shouldn't we try to support all browsers? |
Vivaldi |
6. Databases you use? (Check all that apply)
Others
AWS S3 |
Sybase |
api |
FoxPRO |
DynamoDB |
SAP SQL Anywhere |
Trying to get my clients to leave MS Access behind. |
Frameworks and Methodology
7. What MVC Frameworks do you use? (Check all that apply)
Others
test |
Farcry |
Kendo UI |
Used to use ColdBox, but again, community issues have forced me to leave CF |
Hoping to migrate to ColdBox soon! |
Fusebox Hybrid |
AngularJS |
Internally developed |
FarCry |
Coldspring |
I have never been trained to use MVC Frameworks |
home-built framework specific to app, designed 15 years ago |
8. What ColdFusion-based CMS do you use? (Check all that apply)
Others
test |
in-house |
Workcube |
Masa |
My own built CMS |
Homesite |
Masa CMS |
WordPress |
Massa |
Icm |
Masa CMS |
WordPress 🙂 |
Guinevere |
own |
My blog runs on duct-tape and grit. |
Masa CMS |
Masa CMS |
Masa CMS |
Wheelie CMS |
Masa CMS |
I use a cms it's not Coldfusion tried ContentBox couldn't serve a demo on cf2016 |
home grown |
Wordpress/Docker |
Proprietary |
Homemade |
9. What JavaScript libraries do you use? (Check all that apply)
Others
Custom Scfripts |
Alpine.js |
HTMX |
Nuxt |
MooTools |
vanilla javascript; jEasyUI |
Webix |
Angular.js (the other version), Umbrella JS |
HTMX |
MDB5 |
htmx.org |
Alpine.js |
Alpine JS |
Alpine |
I have never been trained to use JavaScript Libraries |
MDB5 |
htmx |
Mootools |
GSAP |
Custom built |
Native Web Components |
Handlebars |
10. What CSS frameworks do you use? (Check all that apply)
Others
Material |
Bulma.css |
Bulma |
MJML (for E-mail), Skeleton |
Quasar |
Bulma |
SemanticUI |
Bulma |
DevExtreme |
Skeleton |
Tachyons |
semanticui |
Bulma |
semantic |
I have never been trained to use CSS frameworks |
Custom built |
I write my own CSS, love learning all the cool stuff you can do with it. |
11. What CFC dependency injection frameworks and tools do you use? (Check all that apply)
Others
FW/1 |
Plevne |
coldbox built-in |
I have never been trained to use CFC dependency injection frameworks |
12. Which persistence frameworks do you use? (Check all that apply)
Others
Workcube |
Home brewed |
Masa CMS ORM |
QB |
I have never been trained to use persistence frameworks |
idk |
datamgr |
13. What testing and mocking frameworks do you use? (Check all that apply)
Others
Homegrown |
Canvas and orchestrator |
My own review |
straight up old fashioned test scripts. I find if you have to write the tests and expected result, you actually have better testing |
cucumber |
Playwright |
Playwright |
TestComplete |
Playwright |
Codeceptjs |
Playwright |
jMeter |
testcafe |
Reflect |
thanks for the embarassing reminder... need. |
14. What type of CF Mobile development frameworks are you using? (Check all that apply)
Others
Kotlin |
Responsive CSS |
Capacitor |
not doing mobile dev in cf though we develop rest that mobile apps consume |
Xojo |
Kotlin Xamirin |
Microsoft Xamarin/.net 6 |
We want to do mobile Dev |
Not doing mobile Dev yet. but would like to know. Need training |
app wrapper GoNative |
Am currently learning more about creating Mobile Apps in CF. I will offer Mobile App dev to my clients when I am ready. |
15. What miscellaneous frameworks/tools are you using? (Check all that apply)
Others
Plevne |
webpack, postcss, babel, eslint |
THANK YOU to Ortus for Commandbox! |
CommandBox Bullet Train! |
Taffy |
16. What CF features do you use for code reuse? (Check all that apply)
Others
CFX tags |
CF Modules |
Forgebox package management through CommandBox |
Tools
17. What do you use for source code control? (Check all that apply)
Others
VersionRecall |
selfhosted git repositories through ssh |
Vault |
PVCS |
Gitea |
Visual SourceSafe |
Beanstalk |
SmartGit |
Dropbox |
Gitea |
aws source code |
OneDrive, Apple TimeMachine |
Beanstalk |
Git |
Kiln |
Gitea |
Virtual imaging |
WinCVS |
18. What tools/IDEs do you use? (Check all that apply)
Others
Coda |
Coda |
Cold Fusion Report Builder |
Textastic (for the Mac and iOS) |
Android Studio |
Editplus for FTP on occasion |
Gedit |
VIM |
I do a lot of coding in BeyondCompare, where I can look at a similar file, function, snippet, or portion of same or different file, using the Align With feature, in the other side for reference or to assist in refactoring. |
have used majority of list, selected current use |
VSCodium |
VS Codium |
I still LOVE Homesite and use it daily. I refuse to let it go. There's nothing better (IMHO) for hand-coding CF. |
Coda |
19. What browser Dev Tools do you use? (Check all that apply)
Others
assorted plugins/addons |
browserstack |
Vue Dev Tools (chrome plugin) |
Brave |
20. What do you use to build REST APIs? (Check all that apply)
Others
Unknown |
Output JSON with CFOUTPUT |
Contract with other programmers |
Masa CMS build-in |
.net based webapi |
Spring Boot |
21. What caching solutions are you using? (Check all that apply)
Others
Varnish |
DB Cache |
Farcry cache |
MongoDB Cache Extension for Lucee |
Homegrown |
ScopeCache |
IIS, Coldfusion's built in caching |
Akamai |
Custom-built solution |
Cfquery built-in cachewithin |
cfwheels built in |
Akamai |
Just caching stuff in the Application / Server scope. |
Cloudfront |
Homegrown |
Plans for Redis, not currently using though |
CFWheels Cache |
Clojure libraries |
dont understand the question |
custom |
Custom built |
22. Do you use Message Queues (MQ) in your CF apps? If so which one(s)? (Check all that apply)*
Others
Somewhat of a homegrown one to learn the basics |
selfhosted MTA |
plan to use one this year, trying to decide |
Homegrown |
HiveMQ (MQTT) |
Early stages of Kafka |
dont understand the question |
Your programming background
23. How many years have you used CFML? (Check one)
24. How many years have you used OO? (Check one)
25. Other languages/environments you use? (Check all that apply)
Others
SQL |
Scala |
F# Kotlin |
Vue.js |
Delphi |
Kotlin, Dart |
Bash,Power Shell |
F# Kotlin |
F# |
I tried to get on board with .NET, but NO THANK YOU! |
26. How many CF developers at your organization? (Check one)
Others
None |
Not sure. Maybe a handful in my dept. The numbers have decreased over the years. All CF applications are slowly being phased out. 🙁 |
50 |
don't know; widely dispersed |
Not sure how many are there, in my team 3 cf dev |
27. How many total employees at your organization? (Check one)
ColdFusion Community
28. How often do you attend ColdFusion User Group meetings? (Check one)
29. What CF related topics are you interested in learning this year? (Check all that apply)*
Others
Migration to .net and Kotlin |
competent linter for cfscript. Cflint is bad |
leveraging existing 3rd-party Java libraries |
Mobile App Development in Coldfusion |
Don't know |
would love to see better mobile app dev documentation and tools for building and deploying mobile apps. |
Undecided |
A JavaScript framework such as Angular, React, or Vue. And Design Patterns |
ColdBox, TestBox |
don't know enough to know WHAT i should be 🙂 |
30. What CF blogs do you read (Check all that apply)*
Others
I only use google and hope to find a blog 😉 |
blog.adamcameron.me |
Cfdocs |
Cfdocs |
Various. I don't read regularly, but google topics and end up at CF blogs. |
Ray Camden, of course |
Wil De Bruin |
Matthew Clemente |
https://blog.adamcameron.me/ |
Lucee newsletter/ news |
shiftinsert.nl |
ones mentioned on modernize or die podcast |
Not a regular reader of any blog, but read many of these on occasional basis while Googling for information. |
Raymond Camden |
Ben Forta, Ray Camden |
Ben Nadel has saved me hundreds of times! Wish he'd still blog more about CF. Old post from Ben Forta and Ray Camden still help on occasion. Charlie Arehart is guiding me through a migration from CF 11 to 2021 at the moment, although he does not know it. 🙂 |
31. Which CF conferences will/did you attend this year? (Check all that apply)* (Check all that apply)
Others
Adobe ColdFusion Summit Online |
not sure yet |
Not sure. |
CF online summit |
^ If it happens. I can't justify any of the non EU ones and not interested in virtual conferences, after trying Adobe's one last year. |
Not sure, Covid, etc. |
Depending on what's virtual, not going to a live event at this stage |
Online itb online Adobe |
(virtual only) |
Likely only attend remote conferences again this year |
Unknown. Am leaving current employment partly because I want to learn new things, both CF-related (OO, ColdBox, TestBox) and other languages including Ruby, Rails, React and/or other JS, and modern testing and dev practices. I hope to start out with a period of exploration and to end up where the inspiration takes me! |
I can't afford to |
I'm in LA, I'd love to attend something relatively close this year! |
Not sure yet |
I always want to go, but never find the time. |
32. What online CF communities do you participate in? (Check all that apply)*
Others
Not anymore; the CF community forced me out for daring to ask a question. |
preside slack |
Coldfusion CFML Brasil |
discord |
Online CF Meetup |
We have pretty active CF discussions within our work groups |
Preside Slack |
only when i have a problem |
working code podcast discord |
Masa |
33. CF Open Source (Check all that apply)*
Others
We are thinking of launching a CF open source project |
N/A |
No option |
Not sure if my org will allow |
None |
Really just exploring the modern CF world right now… |
Don't use open source |
no experience |
we don't use open source - not permitted to publish work publicly |
n/a |
Not sure |
Wish there was more recent open source out there, but I've used some in the past. |
34. I listen to the CF-related channels (Check all that apply)*
Others
.NET Rocks |
Maybe once a year I'll have time to listen to podcast or watch cf video |
I need to listen to some of these! |
I haven’t listened to them yet. |
how have I not, for so long? adding to list |
I don't have time, wish I did. |
Deployment
35. What types of DEVELOPMENT setups do you use? (Check all that apply)*
Others
We are trying Docker right now |
local development, testing, then transfert to the server. |
custom built tools integrated with github enterprise |
Remote Desktop to client's dev environment server |
Kubernetes |
A shared staging web server used by all devs, with a shared staging DB server (3 environments - dev, stage, prod) |
Learning docker, commandBox, etc. need more |
1 Coldfusion instance per developer |
None - don't say it. Yes, I know. But every line of code is mine so I usually get away with this. |
... yes, I know, but all the code is mine, so I can usually get away with this. |
36. What types of PRODUCTION deployments do you use? (Check all that apply)*
Others
Not sure, I don't handle that stuff much. |
N/A |
Gcp |
Just file move from UAT to prod |
Kubernetes w/ containers |
DeployHQ |
CommandBox |
DeployHQ |
Azure vm deployments with custom code |
Cloud |
We use Azure VM’s and services |
Shared hosting for external CF sites, own installations on VMs in LAN for internal sites and applications. |
GIT |
37. What hosting services do you use for your PRODUCTION deployments? (Check all that apply)*
Others
CONTABO |
Local Datacenter |
Swiss services |
IBM Cloud |
https://www.weareha.co.uk/ |
my own server hosted. |
LuceePlanet |
Handy Networks |
netcup, hetzner |
Colo with VMs. |
LiquidWeb |
Google cloud |
N/A |
Hurricane Electric |
NewTek |
NewTek |
Gcp |
Local hosting company (internex.at) |
Ntirety |
ovh |
IBM |
Local datacentre |
Godaddy |
Herzberg vm |
38. What Docker Image(s) are you using, if applicable? (Check all that apply)
Others
Don't use docker |
none |
None |
none |
n/a |
Docker is evil. |
None |
no docker |
None |
None |
None |
Don't use docker. |
None |
None |
None |
minibox |
We are just starting with containers |
NA |
None |
None |
none |
None |
just starting this journey... undecided |
don't know - sorry |
idk |
39. What deployment/build tools do you use? (Check all that apply)*
Others
Powershell |
Capistrano |
Self made deployment |
deploybot |
Docker Build |
Maven, gradle |
git push |
Webpack |
Don't know |
Rsync |
Custom git script called from Coldfusion page |
custom scripts |
Buddy |
Gitea |
Bamboo |
CodeShip |
Shell scripts |
Yarn |
rsync |
Buddy.works |
Capistrano |
Bamboo |
Hostek custom hooks from git repos |
DeployHQ |
Bamboo |
40. What monitoring tools are you using? (Check all that apply)*
Others
Grafana, Azure Log Analytics |
Sentry |
DigitalOcean monitors |
Unknown |
Appdynamics |
PRTG |
Lumigo |
Depends |
SolarWinds |
PRTG |
Don't know |
Gcp |
host monitors |
Sentry |
Sentry and Uptime Robot |
ELK, Prometheus, Grafana |
Uptime Robot |
Pingdom |
BeyondUptime |
Sentry |
Host does |
idk ops does monitoring |
Rollbar |
Pingdom.com / freshping |
Lucee |
41. How do you lock down your servers for security? (Check all that apply)*
Others
Actually I need to check that |
Aws WAF |
DISA |
Don't know |
not sure |
fuseguard, local scripts and STIG applications along with boundary protection on our FW |
Pete Freitag guide |
DISA STIGs |
DoD STIGs |
Dont understand the question |
Handle by other team |
Internal only |
OWASP |
firewall; web server path restrictions |
Managed by another team - I don't know |
Combination lock down guides and CF Best practices. |
Not sure |
It is not my duty, I don't know |
At least I didn't check "What's security?", Lol. |
42. Have your CF servers suffered from a hacking exploit in the last 2 years due to a CF-based vector? (Remember, this is anonymous) (Check all that apply)*
Others
windows 2008 R2 server, I do not know how. |
out of date version - who likes to upgrade? Put it off as long as possible |
Not that I'm aware of |
Windows exploited |
Not knowingly |
Lucee admin hack |
Log4j |
No- but. Not at all pleased with Adobe's speed of updates esp Log4j 1.x |
Word press on server let them in |
Lucee still has unpatched RCEs (june 2022) |
Not sure |
I ensure that our CF installations are up to date and I code for secure pages. Have never been hacked via ColdFusion. Hope I didn't just jinx my company by saying that. |
43. Are you using or planning to use AWS Lambda (serverless) (Check all that apply)*
Others
never heard of it |
Would like more info on this |
It's on our radar as a possibility but nothing planned |
No, but it may be planned in middle terms |
No I wasn't aware of it so not planning to yet. |
Lambda with Node.js |
Not my call. I don't know if that's a plan for some clients or not. |
Node.js Lambda on AWS |
Se use AWS Lambda directly with Node.js and integrate its API with CF |
Yes, but not with CFML |
Have used it for years, but not running CFML on it |
Quite possibly. I was just made aware of this option. |
Lambda with Node |
Possibly, we use it outside of CF already |
no sure |
Uncertain |
Not sure |
maybe |
Node |
Will consider |
No, but I want to, don't I? Should I? We are researching options to reduce spend and improve release SOP |
Managed by another team - I don't know |
Not sure |
44. What aspects of CF are keeping you and/or your company using it? (Check all that apply)*
Others
Existing long-term applications |
Long time ago we started using so legacy applications still use it |
Adobe continues to improve and modernize CF |
To old to learn a new language 😉 |
We are actively porting away from CFML |
Simple database interaction |
Lucee is free and works well |
Legacy code, in the process of replacing with different tech stack. |
Moving away from CF soon |
It's the fastest language to code in. It doesn't take a bunch of libraries imported in every program just to function. |
Too costly, in resources and time, to port to different solution |
We are moving away from it, good riddance. |
I am no longer using CF |
CMS is written in CFML |
already skilled |
Rewriting in NodeJS |
Team Specialty |
Looking to move to .NET |
1. It’s simplicity. 2. Easy and fast to teach to new developers. |
Ortus |
Familiar |
so easy to get complex tasks done quickly |
CommandBox and Forgebox for package management. It's like Node JS, but makes more sense. |
Our new CIO has declared we will be a Microsoft only shop and that CF is going away. |
Ortus Solutions and Lucee, CFML Slack |
Wrap up
45. What aspects of CF are preventing you or your company from embracing CF? (Check all that apply)*
Others
Social media bashing |
Quite unknown in Switzerland |
Not enough YOUNG developers (Fresh Blood) |
Perception of Security |
It's sunsetting technology. You'd be a fool to persist with it |
Adobe |
Lack of support to modern security scanning tools |
No new beginner coders being actively developed in North America |
Upgrade costs have kept many people on old versions |
Lack of community support. |
Legacy code in 3 languages - too costly to consolodate. |
Adobe is too slow to support new OS versions. |
Can't stress enough Adobe poor marketing of CF |
its very underserved reputation |
the doc examples for many things are weak, especially features like building mobile apps. You are missing a great opp with this... CF is so easy to build apps, allow us to build a deploy custom mobile apps for phones. |
Just wanted to say 'Cost/licencing issues' twice, since Adobe doubled their prices. |
Adobe sucks. |
Community is small, so cutting edge solutions aren't as battle tested as in larger communities |
License Costs |
Misinformed leadership team with a Microsoft bias. |
CF is Dead --- Poor Adobe Marketing of CF |
Need better CI/CD DevSecOps tools |
I use lucee |
Super expensive Adobe licences, Lucee not fully compatible |
Nothing is preventing us. We use CF almost exclusively. |
46. What are your company’s plans for your technology stack, if any? (Check all that apply)*
If migrating FROM CFML to another language, please specify
We will incorporate some Node where relevant |
Considering moving to php |
Node.JS |
Kotlin |
Moving from monolithic app to microservices (akka based) |
Puthon PHP Kotlin |
Migrating to Microservices using .NET Core |
From CF to .net.. it's a shame |
Python, Node.js |
NodeJs Python |
WordPress / PHP and Angular / React |
Node |
clients want fancy new solutions |
Java, JavaScript, Go, serverless |
.NET |
.Net |
Language agnostic bit go or jvm based |
NodeJS |
nodes express |
.net |
once we get app into a seperation of concerns state, then CF's benifit of integrating server-side with HTML becomes moot - REST API does not need CF and client side does not use CF. Microservices running CF would help mitigate departure. |
No plans |
Looking for a new enterprise CMS |
.Net Core |
python, golang |
If migrating from another language TO CFML, please specify
No plans |
PHP |
Node |
Would love to move DNN to ContentBox but really having issues putting together proof of concept |
JavaScript |
Management wants us to migrate to .NET |
47. What is your approximate salary range in USD? (Remember, this is anonymous) (Check one)
Others
Pass |
Not disclosing |
Including additional income on a per-Job basis with non-salary side projects |
We do not disclose data like this. |
Really, 85-150 |
Skip |
Can't disclose |
NA |
sole proprietor of two pivoting businesses |
I own this corporation. There is me and one other CF developer I trained myself. We supplement with Wordpress, PHP on VPS. |
I own the corporation, we offer web design and Dev to small-medium size companies. |
48. What is your current arrangement for CF work? (Check all that apply)*
Others
Entrepreneure |
Currently not on a CF project. Details provided are for previous project. |
career position and co-owner and freelance on retainer. |
Full service includes development |
I have a full time CF day job and a part time CF side job |
In flux - leaving in-house employment, exploring remote opportunities, planning independent learning activities (and possible “sabbatical”) to transition from ancient to modern CF and other skills. |
sorry, I'm salary remote. But I've selected all options we employ currently. |
Personal projects |
49. What industry is your company in? (Check all that apply)*
Others
Non-profit |
50. Any additional comments/suggestions for the survey?
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Question 44:
What aspects of CF keep you and/or your company using it? (Check all that apply)**
The answers don't make sense the way the question is asked
What aspects of CF keep you and/or your company using it? (Check all that apply)**
Thanks for putting this together each year. We appreciate your hard work and dedication to the community!
The questions have been modernised since the last time I looked at this (which was last year, I think). Good work.
Still waiting for full SQL support for query of queries (especially left join)
I am french, need to know if they are Lucee users in France, and also CF users.
To get a nearer relation.
To get a nearer relation.
Continue with your great work! I was very positively moved by your talks about cold depression. It's been a great help!
The entire cfml universe needs so much improvement with the onboarding of new developers. From a newbie perspective, its not very inviting or easy or modern.
When you ask Standard or Enterprise, also ask how many servers and instances are run in production. Would like to know the scale of production installs. One standard? One enterprise with 2 or 3 instances? 10 enterprise servers, 8 instances per server?
We are moving away from CFML. I wish it would be open sourced by adobe. It's time to move on. Personally I am already know the .NET which allows me to have better career and better salary.
It was a good survey. I really liked the questions. We are a community in Turkey employing approximately 500 people. We have been developing Workcube for 20 years. We love the Coldfusion community.
Feel like CF hit bottom a few years back and is having a modest resurgence. But it's not new people sadly, but people coming back to CF because it now offers features it previously lacked that forced them to leave the community.
There's a real opportunity for CF to gain popularity with Lambda/serverless as the easy to use solution. I'm hopeful but realistic they might fumble the opportunity.
We're currently beginning the transition from CF <= 2016 on three different OSs to CF 2021 on Windows.
Answers based on previous employer. Working with CF was harmful to my career because of low usage. Now working with node.js express. So nice to use same language in both front and back.
Convert the survey to be a mobile-first or friendly typeform type experience.
Organize the questions between mandatory and optional
Ask what people are looking for in 2022 from Lucee/CF
Thanks for all your work in doing this 🙂
ColdFusion is supposedly on a comeback trajectory. Is there any evidence to support this rumor?
Might be a good idea to ask if the person answering does only in house work (ie, a developer for a company that has a lot of Coldfusion projects) or works in a code shop that does CF work for client companies, or is an independent contractor. Also in addition to salary, ask what hourly rate contractors make. I've done both and it's a pretty big difference.
Check to see if participant is actually using cold fusion right at the start and curtail survey if they are not..
Adobe too slow fixing the bugs and far behind the features, tools compare to NodeJS. Plus license cost is too high. Coldfusion perceive as dead language.
No - thanks for coordinating it
Most of us in my small local CF community feel that Adobe is not fully committed to CF. It does not market it as a great alternative to existing platforms, it is very slow to launch new versions compatible with new OS versions, its cloud/serverless offering is lacking, it is slow to adopt trends (i.e.: it will probably take it about 5 more years to integrate with the Ethereum blockchain and NFTs), they no longer support visual development with Dreamweaver, and many other little things.
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