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Michaela Light: 00:01 Welcome back to the show. I'm here with Kishore Bally Krishna from Adobe and we're going to be talking about CF summit, India 2019 and all the new details on that, some revealing some information that hasn't been out there publicly yet about the speakers and topics and some other cool news about the event. So welcome Kishore.
Kishore : 00:23 Thanks for going to, it's always good to be back talking to you about goldfish fishing.
Michaela Light: 00:27 Yeah, and we have lots of fans of the podcast in India. There are thousands of developers in cold fusion in India. It's a very big vise. Nicole's Adobe itself has its development headquarters for cold fusion in Bangalore ruin India. We'll talk more about that later, but perhaps four we get going about what's happening in CF. Some India, we should tell people who you are. So your principle product marketing manager for cold fusion, Adobe and you're not just a marketing guy. You actually studied computer science when you were slightly younger than you are now.
Kishore : 01:05 Yes, I did. My masters in conveyor does as well.
Michaela Light: 01:08 Yeah, and you will live the voice of the ColdFusion customer in Adobe. So when people have things they want to hear about in ColdFusion 20, 20, or 2022, they should, uh, let you know. So when you can pass it on and clearly get the team working on what people want,
Kishore : 01:26 yes, they could. They could. They have a couple of other avenues as well. They could all also reach out to Alicia or track ship. Uh, uh, so, uh, we are a team and we make sure that any concerns or any, anything that the customer wants gets addressed.
Michaela Light: 01:44 And your bio says you, you love long runs and cooking. I do. You do that at the same time. You have like a pen in your hand flipping the food?
Kishore : 01:52 I have once.
Michaela Light: 01:55 Okay. So I think we should, uh, answer the question. What, what is CF? Some India, cause I know some people have heard of CF summit, you know, West in Las Vegas. So I what is the, if some of India,
Kishore : 02:12 we have been having a sea of summits, um, in us, uh, over the last seven years. And actually this one was the eighth year that we had a CF summit in Vegas. And, um, unfortunately law, not many people would be, it's a long travel from here to uh,U us, it takes roughly around 26 hours to travel from India to U S and, uh, the cost, just most of the people say like, it doesn't justify the cost and the time it takes to travel from here to there for an event. And we have been hearing this feedback and there a lot of offshore development houses in India and there are a lot of, uh, new companies which are adopting India, a corporation in India. So last year, uh, we had the coalition summit in India and uh, we are pleasantly surprised at the turnout. We had close to around a hundred and I think it was 173 companies which are represented at [inaudible] and India and [inaudible].
Michaela Light: 03:19 Is it just for people in India or is anyone in Asia or
Kishore : 03:23 anyone in Asia? So we had people who travel, who are traveled from Malaysia, who are called from Singapore and um, who are traveled from, uh, Bangkok as Thailand as well. So high time McKayla, maybe who you all just should book your tickets.
Michaela Light: 03:38 There you go. Yeah, I'm currently in Thailand here for some conferences and also it's just slightly sunnier and warmer than it is in the U S right now. So, um, I gave up on winter a few years ago to be honest. Uh, I haven't been, I haven't had experienced a winter, uh, gosh, 10 years now. So I just, uh, go from summer to summer. Um, so that's greatly that, you know, it's convenient for anyone in the whole region. Uh, you've gone to, so, uh, how long has CF, some India been running?
Kishore : 04:15 Oh, this is the second year that we are having it. We color.
Michaela Light: 04:18 All right. So, uh, how many, you said you had 210 people last year. How many do you think you're going to have this year?
Kishore : 04:28 We are definitely targeting more than two 50.
Michaela Light: 04:32 Wow.
Kishore : 04:33 Because we still have a month to go for the event and um, actually we still have exactly a month to go for the event. It's going to be on December 7th and we currently have around 200 registrations.
Michaela Light: 04:46 Wow. While you're [inaudible]
Kishore : 04:48 they asked me after registrations, you know about that. Yeah,
Michaela Light: 04:52 yeah. Look,
Kishore : 04:53 let's see. I'm going to exit successfully so long. So the last month you are, you actually doubled the number of illustrations. So we are hoping to get, and just keeping your fingers crossed that we get around 300 people, but maybe we should be good.
Michaela Light: 05:08 All right. So, um, seems like Adobe's been expanding where you're doing ColdFusion conferences. You know, you started off just doing Vegas and you moved to Washington DC as well as Vegas. And then last year you started CF summit India, which did really well. Uh, do you have other, you know, plans for Europe or,
Kishore : 05:32 um, we I think, uh, two weeks back we were at a CF camp in Munich and uh, we spoke to mushy, who runs an amazing conference there. And um, we had asked him if we could have an expanded presence of a to be at CF camp. And so, uh, sta starting next year, I think you will have the coalition certification along with the CF campus. Well, the day before CF camp we'll have the culprit cultivation certification. And maybe some more sessions that are under that we call vision. And it's, it's primarily a corporation conference. So you have a lot of cool vision sessions as well over there.
Michaela Light: 06:12 That's great that you're doing that. And two thumbs up for doing the certification there. I saw the certification classes in Las Vegas. They were packed. You know, a lot of people were excited to get that, um, both for their career prospects, but also that they, I heard people say they just learn stuff, you know, the inculcation 2018 they didn't know was that ass. Uh, and the were like, uh, you know, I forget how many ass 23 as a video training and points of help from Adobe stuff while you're taking the training. So great. PNG there. Now those are all cold fusion specific conferences, but I remember last year you and Alicia were that week and I think you went to some other conference.
Kishore : 06:55 Yes. So, uh, we, we wanted to spread the, spread the awareness around ColdFusion, um, being we knew that we had done a okay job running the [inaudible] summits and CF going to all the cold conferences. Uh, like into the box, like CF chem and things like that where we knew most of the guys. Um, what we wanted to do was we wanted to expand the awareness around called fruition. Uh, so, uh, we started last year, we went to developer week, which is one of the largest developer conferences and I'm an in North America. They had around 20,000 people at the event. And, uh, we had, uh, we had one session as well as an, uh, a booth at the event. And, um, from an awareness perspective we were able to talk to a lot of developers over there who either had you school vision before and we were able to explain to them about the new features around cold fusion.
Kishore : 08:02 I or new, completely new, uh, customers are developers who didn't know about coalition and we, and when we told them how easy it is to do certain stuff and coefficient, they S they were clearly impressed and they said they'll go back and go give it a shot. And, um, we were able to able to make some key decision makers at developer week. So, uh, that was one of the conferences which really worked well. And also, uh, there's this, uh, conference of national association of government web developers. It's called an AGW. Um, they had, they had a conference in salt Lake city in September, so Alicia attended the event along with our partners and we, again, once again we had a booth and we were the, uh, platinum sponsors of that event. And um, that also went well because, um, they're, it's specifically targeted towards web developers. And we had, um, we had very interesting conversation about, you know, a corporation and the one thing which we realized was, um, it's good to go to these conferences. One from an awareness perspective too. Um, we were able to, uh, there any concerns about the future of the product. We were able to, you know, have a one to one discussion with the customers then and there.
Michaela Light: 09:30 That is great. Um, so any plans to go to any other events next year to spread the good word about cold fusion and the new released the year 2020?
Kishore : 09:41 Yes. So a, we are going to go to developer week, uh, that's going to happen in February in Oakland. So we will be there again. Um, so I'm doubt if there's any other conferences which, uh, the coefficient community things that we need to be seen at a piece or dropping the mail to me or to Alicia, uh, we are foaming up our plans for next year. So if they, if you, you feel that we need to be there and any of those conferences, we will be there.
Michaela Light: 10:12 Great. Well I, I'll put your email in the show notes that terror. Take your comments. Basically firstname.lastname@example.org. So a business, you heard this here from Kishore. If you know some good conferences, Adobe should be telling people about cold fusion out maybe with other developers or CEO's or all the it leadership. Uh, let them know straight away cause I know you're making budget decisions. Uh, next month. Yes. Um, certainly help us out and I'm very excited that Adobe has started going to other conferences. That was an idea that came up in the, uh, CF alive book I put out. And it's great to see, uh, you know, improving the situation for cold fusion, making it more alive. So, um, let's, uh, look at CF summit. India. Why, why is it so important for the CF community to have this conference?
Kishore : 11:07 As I told you before, it's primarily targeted towards, uh, ColdFusion developers in India and obviously in this region. Um, and it's, it's a, it's a great venue as well as the size C of summit. India is going to happen out of the Adobe office in Bangalore. And this is one place where they could come and see the entire team, the entire engineering support, marketing, the sales team, inside sales team. All of us are going to be here. So if we want them, if we are concerned about the future of ColdFusion and to see your Adobe's commitment, I would strongly suggest you to drop by Adobe office and see the number of people who are working on the product and how enthusiastic that developers are. And, um, most of the sessions are taken by the developers themselves. Uh, so if you look at, uh, we are going to publish the schedule, uh, by tomorrow.
Kishore : 12:05 So if you look at the schedule, you will know that the feature owners are going to present, are going to be presenting on the topics. So if you look at scheduler or if you look at, um, if you look at scheduler, uh, the feature owner is gonna go on to present on that. And if you look at any other topic, it's primarily, uh, the feature owners who will be talking about it. So who else than them to, uh, give you a in depth if you have any queries, these are the guys who could even tell you what, what is happening. And if you feel, feel that something is, should be implemented some other way, uh, these are the guys whom you should be talking to.
Michaela Light: 12:48 That's great. So a, a really unique opportunity to talk to the engineering team a behind hope. You can hear them speak about a futures in the current version, maybe a sneak peek into what's coming in a future versions. Also, I think, you know, it's great to network with other, uh, ColdFusion developers in India and Asia. So, and I think from a management perspective, just hearing the roadmap you have for ColdFusion, what Adobe has a corporate commitment to cold fusion through at least 20, 28, uh, already, uh, announced. So, and you know, not only do we have the next version, CF 20, 20, but I, I know you've got plans in the works for CF 2022, um, going on as well. So
Kishore : 13:35 yes, a ruptured, we'll be talking about what's gonna be coming out in 20, 20 and 20, 21. And you never know. He might give you a sneak peek into Howard Howard look. And um, he always has a lot of code demos that he walks through during his presentation. So, uh, the engineering team has been working on it. And uh, you never know, there might be some new features which you've been, we have not seen in CF summit in Vegas.
Michaela Light: 14:02 I'm sure it will be things we learned about the CFA India that weren't in Las Vegas. So lots of reasons to come. So I think the moment has come to reveal who those speakers are and what the topics are. Cause a, that's not even on the website yet. I think you said it's coming out tomorrow or the day after. So
Kishore : 14:18 yeah. So as I told you, uh, the feature owners are going to talk about the features themselves. So we have a P with features that are, you know, the security analyzer topics around the security analyzer, which has been taken by ed Ben who's the developer who's working on the secretary analyzer. Uh, we have uh, the schedule task, uh, talk which is being done by Swichkow and she has been uh, involved with that particular piece of code for quite some time. And uh, so she got, someone has already spoken about a schedule tasks and stuff like that at CF summit. I think this is a fourth time she's going to be speaking at CF summit and you should be talking about the performance related stuff topics and a [inaudible] and a Doobie. We'll be talking about the performance monitoring toolkit that came out in 2018. And these are the developers actually developers who I worked on the feature. I should [inaudible] has worked on a lot of language enhancements in 2018 and we also made a lot of language announcements and the recent updates. So he's going to be talking about those features. And a a day is going to be talking about document management and anything that the PDF XL or any operations, he's your guy to talk to and get key. We'll be talking about the different UI frameworks that are available.
Michaela Light: 15:50 Wow. Cool. Now I noticed in that list, uh, uh, Ashley talking about what you call you five, I wasn't quite clear what that was.
Kishore : 16:00 Uh, it's called update fi, which got recently released. So update by not only had a security and a about fixes, but it had a lot of uh, language enhancements as well. So he'll be talking about in those as well. This is the show that uh, the updates necessarily are not necessarily in loose one leader security or the bug fixes, but we are trying to pull in, um, a language announcements as and when needed as well.
Michaela Light: 16:32 Fabulous. And I think we met left two speakers off that, uh, Rakshit is going to be talking about ColdFusion 2020 features and I saw part of this talk in Las Vegas and it was an amazing demo of some really cool stuff coming out with multicloud and, uh, pain of support and all kinds of language features. So, uh, you know, please don't miss that if you're attending CF in India and then, uh, I think a, actually Chicago is speaking to, is that right?
Kishore : 17:01 Yes, she's good. We'll be taking the keynote, uh, session. She's the director of engineering, uh, for cold fusion and e-learning products at Adobe. And um, he's a techie himself too. He has worked on [inaudible] and so he started off with children at Macromedia, so he knows the silverside stuff quite well.
Speaker 3: 17:26 Okay.
Michaela Light: 17:26 Yeah, I've interviewed him quite a lot for an upcoming book and also for the podcast and he is definitely a tech genius and he's got a lot of exciting things. He gave him the keynote in Las Vegas. I'm sure we'd be giving bath and even more news this keynote on CF 2020. And all the amazing things you can do with that and how it makes ColdFusion developers, Korea is even more valuable with, you know, moved to the cloud. So, um, you mentioned it's December 7th. Um, what is it, what time does it, does it run?
Kishore : 18:04 So, uh, it's on a Saturday. So, uh, it starts from eight o'clock in the morning. It runs til four 30
Michaela Light: 18:10 in the evening. The session people don't have to lose time from work to do that. If they are busy developing for customers Monday through Friday, they can.
Kishore : 18:20 Yes. So Saturdays will be a good time for them to come and learn about.
Michaela Light: 18:27 Yeah. And it's 8:00 AM to four 30, I think. Yes. And then the, I heard that you might have some kind of special event in the evening.
Kishore : 18:38 We are planning that, so that, that's going to be a surprise.
Michaela Light: 18:42 Oh, we didn't tell no one tell anything about this. Um, and then what about food? Do people get breakfast and lunch or,
Kishore : 18:50 yes. Uh, they do get breakfast and lunch and snacks in between. So everything would be taken care by Adobe.
Michaela Light: 18:58 Oh wow. Now, that sounds like amazing. It's providing a whole day of cold fusion training, right from the horses mouth of the cold fusion team. Uh, you providing food, you've got the location. It sounds like this is a really expensive event. How much do people have to pay to attend?
Kishore : 19:14 Oh, well I don't know if that was in dollars per person. How does the time,
Michaela Light: 19:19 alright, sounds like a deal.
Kishore : 19:22 No, that's they even this complementary Mikayla,
Michaela Light: 19:25 it's completely free of these. So there's no reason for people not to attend who, who were able to travel? Uh, there. Um, and w where, where exactly is the event happening?
Kishore : 19:40 Uh, the event that's happening out of Adobe office in Bangalore. So we are based out of the auto finger road, which is supposed to be that technology technical hub. All the IPO ID numbers is odd
Michaela Light: 19:52 in this are wrote so, so they just go pass Microsoft, Google and that's Adobe.
Kishore : 20:00 Exactly. If you come on with you exactly pass through Microsoft and Google, then you hit Adobe.
Michaela Light: 20:06 All right, well where will the big tech players are and yeah, and this is the same location as last year. Um, now bang. Leroux is the tech capital of India, is that right? I haven't been there yet.
Kishore : 20:24 Yes, it does. The tech capital of in there, it's called the Silicon Valley of India. So
Michaela Light: 20:28 the Silicon Valley of India and it's in the South of India where all spicy food is. Yes. All right. Um, lots of easy flights to get to, to bang the roof from bang glue. What is it called? Bangalore or Bangla? Rue. I'm not always confused. It's called this Bangalow Anglo row. Okay. And is it easy to fly too or,
Kishore : 20:52 well, it is easy to apply to everyone anyway. Your direct flights connecting to went.
Michaela Light: 20:57 Yeah, I know. I found a direct flight from Taipei, Taiwan, not Taiwan, Thailand, but I think all over India, it's easy to get to from [inaudible]. It's easy to get to. So, um, and then what about the, um, cold fusion certification? Is there gonna be any testing on that at the conference or,
Kishore : 21:21 so, uh, we couldn't launch it, uh, the CEO, uh, India, but, uh, next year and the middle of next year we might launch the certification program in India.
Michaela Light: 21:34 That'll be great because I saw the certification classes in Vegas and they were packed, you know, the, they just, uh, I think they had to get three rooms to fill that everything's going to be one room. Um, and they had to hire extra instructors and it was a great course. It was like 23 as a video training with online help
Kishore : 21:54 playing online. And you have one day or face to face training as well. Yeah. Afterwards take the test.
Michaela Light: 22:02 Yeah. And it, and it wasn't just, you know, it was interactive, you know, you could ask questions or if he was stopped you could get help. So, uh, and I spoke to some people who did that and they, you know, some of them kind of took it for career purposes thinking they wouldn't learn and thing. But I actually ended up learning a lot of new things about CF 20, 20 CF 2018, I mean, yeah. Sorry. I've got CF 2020 on the brain cause I've been writing about, um, no, they learned a lot of new things about competition. They didn't even know because there's so many features, niche release, it's hard to keep up with all stuff that you could be using in your apps. So, um, people who were, who are new to, uh, bank LaRue, is there anything else to do there other than see the Adobe office know the new coputen features
Kishore : 22:51 and uh, Bangalore is also called the garden city. So we have a lot of parks in and around Bangalore, which you could look at. I'm not talking about the IP parks that are actually box at home. So, uh, you could look at that and there are a lot of historic buildings in the neuron Bangalore as well, which you could look at.
Michaela Light: 23:11 Yeah. Cause it's the capital of the state of, I'm going to probably mangle the name here, but Kona Paka yeah.
Kishore : 23:19 And, uh, if you, if you want to let your hair down in the evening, that a lot of amazing pops in India as well in Bangladesh as well
Michaela Light: 23:29 and, and also incredibly spicy food cause this is South of Indiana. So,
Kishore : 23:33 Oh yeah, definitely that, that's true for across India. So you get a lot of spicy for that but,
Michaela Light: 23:38 but I've heard that the South of India is the spiciest of all areas. So just be warned, those visiting from the North of India, you might have your tie spots take old. Um, so any, anything new this year and CF summit. India.
Speaker 4: 23:56 Okay.
Kishore : 23:58 Uh, no. So we are going to talk a lot about CF 2020 and the enhancements that we did in 2018. And uh, as I don't do, the entire team is going to be here. So if you want to have one on one conversation with any particular regarding any particular feature or anything like that, don't hesitate to reach, reach out to me. And we will set you up with the corresponding position makers or the corresponding team members who work on the features so that they could walk you through and let you know what exactly why exactly they did what they did and [inaudible] request. That's a place you could directly talk to the decision makers and tell them what you feel.
Michaela Light: 24:41 Well, we'll put the link for registration in the, uh, CLI podcast show notes on the Terra tech site. Um, I'll just give out that URL and it's a bit long. That's why I'm gonna put it on the show notes thing. It's CF summit, india.attendees.com and that's where folks can register. Um, and is there anything else about CF summit, India we should tell people?
Kishore : 25:07 No, this is a good, good place to come and see. What are the other ColdFusion developers in your area doing? It's not only talking to us, but talking to developers as well. So last time, uh, last year of site we had people who stayed back til around seven o'clock in the evening talking about college. The event got over on stop them. Uh, they just, they just went on and we let them be because it'll oppose, you know, that's what we do.
Michaela Light: 25:38 Yeah. Love talking about cold fusion, all the new cool things, what you can do with it. So I do the questions. I ask all my guests. First of all, why are you proud to be involved with ColdFusion? Cause you've been involved with it for nearly a decade. [inaudible]
Kishore : 25:55 nearly a decade by, as I told you before, I started using called vision long time back when I was in college. So I think 2000 was the time when [inaudible] started using called pollution. Um, coming up for you,
Michaela Light: 26:08 your 10 year anniversary, we should get you a cake.
Kishore : 26:11 Oh, please. Yes. So I, I have, I've been with Adobe for more than 13 years and where the goldfish and beam, I've been working with the cultivation in the cultivation team or roughly around eight years, seven years right now. So, yes,
Michaela Light: 26:30 see, no, you know, I run great. So, um, as you know why, you know, I do the ColdFusion alive podcast or wrote a book on it, you know, I really want Coke fusion to be seen as more alive, um, because under the hood, ColdFusion is alive. And when you look at what people are doing with it, it's very alive, but sometimes as a perception that it's not a alive. And I, my question to you, uh, as we drove to the end of the decade was a nearly nearly the end of the teens I guess is what we call was decade. Um, what would it take to make ColdFusion even more alive in 2020?
Kishore : 27:06 I think all we need to do is talk about the amazing things that you guys are doing with corporation the developers are doing at fusion. It's not necessarily, it's not enough that only called the Adobe talks about ColdFusion. Um, it'd be great if the community gets behind that and starts talking about the amazing stuff that is being built with coalition. A lot of times you, uh, we had seen a lot of times that banks are using corporation, um, for now or most of the financial institutions are using, could we, should government exists in ColdFusion and, um, you know, you were at a CEO summit I think 2018 when NASA said how they're using ColdFusion. So it'll be great if people start talking about the amazing, uh, amazingly cool stuff that is being developed using ColdFusion. And believe me, it's the 25th year next year and it'd be great if you guys, if the developers could let us know what other sorts of applications that they have built using called friction,
Michaela Light: 28:10 that would be fabulous. Maybe a, some kind of special celebration, silver anniversary of cold fusions.
Kishore : 28:17 We are, we are planning on some things that I, you will see throughout next year.
Michaela Light: 28:23 Yes, you could tell us, but then you'd have to have a soul, uh, dominated.
Kishore : 28:29 We will let you know, uh, next. [inaudible] I think, Jan, I think we will let you know what our plans are.
Michaela Light: 28:35 Fabulous. Yeah. And I just want to mention, you know, I know a lot of, uh, organizations use ColdFusion cause it is the most secure app development ecosystem out there. You set it up prior. So, um, you know, it was a good read and it also before it was really fast, particularly [inaudible]
Kishore : 28:56 it's the productivity, security and performance that that still holds called fruition in all these organizations. Yeah.
Michaela Light: 29:06 Fabulous. So for you personally, what are you looking forward to at CF summit, India 2019.
Kishore : 29:13 Looking forward to meeting a lot of, uh, gold Vishen developers, uh, uh, over the, over the past seven or eight years I've become really close to some of the developers as well. So it's more like a family reunion right now.
Speaker 5: 29:30 Yeah.
Michaela Light: 29:30 Great. Well, thanks for telling us all about the, uh, event. Uh, if people want to reach you online, what are the best ways to do that? Secure.
Kishore : 29:42 Um, either drop me a may, let's be email@example.com or LinkedIn or Twitter or Facebook. So I'm available on all three platforms. So what other does, you would always reach out to me and all these three platforms.
Michaela Light: 29:56 All right, well we'll put your URLs for those platforms in the show notes along with your email, and thanks so much for telling us about CF summit India. I'll look forward to seeing you though.
Kishore : 30:08 Thanks Michela for having me over here.