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Michaela Light 0:01
Welcome back to the podcast. I'm here with Kishore balakrishna, from Adobe all the way from India. And we're gonna be talking about CF summit 2020. And there's lots of new things happening this year. So very excited about that. But before we go on if you don't know who he is, he is the principal Product Marketing Manager at Adobe full cold fusion. And now as well as taking care of marketing and organizing CF summit, he also does some cold fusion sales help as well. And just in case you think he's just some kind of marketing genius alone, he actually did a degree in computer applications. So he actually understands was programming stuff as well. So welcome Kishore.
Kishore Balakrishnan 0:42
Thanks for it all. It's always great to be back talking to you.
Michaela Light 0:46
Yes. And good to hear from you. So what exactly is CF summit? 2020? Because I'm assuming it's not going to be happening in Las Vegas this year?
Kishore Balakrishnan 0:57
Unfortunately, no, we would not be having it in Las Vegas this year. Next year, definitely not the Unfortunately, this situation is not right for having physical events this year. So we are going to make it online. And we are very excited to that this is going to be one of the biggest conferences for CF this year.
Michaela Light 1:21
Wow. When you say the biggest How big do you think it will be?
Unknown Speaker 1:26
Kishore Balakrishnan 1:29
when we did
the developer week, instead of CF Summit East, that normally happens in DC. We were expecting around 2000 registrations, but we had close to around 2800 registrations for that event.
Michaela Light 1:48
Was that 10 times bigger than than the physical event last year, right? Because I was there you had 280 people the physical event you had 10 times as many. So what were they just from the East Coast us area? Or did people from around the world attend? There are people
Kishore Balakrishnan 2:06
from around the world were there for that event as well? And that's exactly the reason why I'm putting a 10 X on our, from our physical numbers to this event. So well, wait a minute, that will mean four or 5000. Attendees. Exactly. I think we are trending correct correctly towards that number. Because right now we have 1600 registrations already for the event. And we are still like,
Michaela Light 2:31
hardly announce it.
Kishore Balakrishnan 2:34
And we are still two months away from the event. That's why I'm so confident about that number.
Michaela Light 2:43
Wow, this will be the biggest CF summit ever.
Kishore Balakrishnan 2:49
Oh, yes. But I think you still hold the number for the physical physical event.
Michaela Light 2:55
Well, yeah, we did have over 900 at cfunited. Many years ago, so. So you know, but I'm sure you will, you will beat that with this event where you already have you already beat it. So this is good. I'm very excited. You know, the more people that can learn about what's new in ColdFusion, learn about what makes it alive and modern these days, the better. I think the tide has turned on that whole argument. So I think CF summit can definitely help in that regard. And, you know, I was there last year, and I learned so much from it. So I'm looking forward to this year's one. How many is the CF summit been running?
Kishore Balakrishnan 3:40
This is the eighth year? Let's hear some
Michaela Light 3:43
eight year Wow. No special guest number. So so really anyone anywhere in the world can attend this. Is that true? Or do you have to be united states?
Kishore Balakrishnan 3:59
No, anyone anywhere from anywhere in the world could attend. And since this is an online event, what we are planning on doing is having a couple of sessions. Obviously most of the sessions will be in the US time zones. But we are also planning on having couple of sessions, the European timezone, as well as a couple of sessions in the Indian timezone as well to talk to specifically talk to those audiences.
Michaela Light 4:25
So if you're in Europe, a lot of Europeans feel a bit neglected as to people in Asia Pacific. So this year, they won't, you know, they will have some special live sessions. But what about if you know, they miss a session? Will they be able to watch it later or?
Kishore Balakrishnan 4:44
Yes. So this time, the event is going to be hosted on another platform. And oh, well, they plan well. I'm not at liberty to, you know, say the name of the platform, but we already signed up with the vendor up, and you will see it when we launch the summit. And the good part about the platform provides the ability to make an online event online webinar immediately into an on demand webinar, the moment the online event gets over, let's say the webinar is from nine to 10pm. If you log in to 10, one or 10, to the on demand thing is going to be there for you.
Michaela Light 5:28
Oh, so there's no waiting like previous years, we had to wait four weeks for recordings to come out. There'll be they're immediately.
Kishore Balakrishnan 5:35
Exactly the last.
Michaela Light 5:37
Wow, that is great. So just so we're clear here, you know, there's no barrier to anyone coming because I'm just gonna guess the cost is free, zero, nada, nothing. Is that true?
Kishore Balakrishnan 5:52
That's exactly true. All right.
Michaela Light 5:54
And, of course, because it's online, you don't have to fly to the United States, you don't have to go through all that visa excitement that people have want Americans go through. Don't have to get a hotel room. As fun as that hotel was the Mirage last year. You know, it's quite an expense to attend a big conference.
Kishore Balakrishnan 6:14
So there are some positive points on a field event as well. But online has its own advantages.
Michaela Light 6:22
Hmm, absolutely, it does. So, one of the things I've seen, I went to the online into the box cold fusion event that happened and you know, it's easy to get a bit tired of going to online meetings. So hey, how are you addressing that.
Kishore Balakrishnan 6:45
So what we are planning on doing is we are planning on packing your day with sessions Wi Fi, but we know how busy you guys are all the developers are. So we might probably end up having like four sessions in your timezone at any given day. And it's not gonna be back to back so that you know you, it gets you tired gives you enough time to go back, check your mails, and then log in after after some time. Or if you wish you could the way we are We also currently have close to around eight different sponsors, whom you could talk to
Michaela Light 7:24
Oh, who are they? Can you tell us who the sponsors are so far? Is that or is that secret? Oh, these
Kishore Balakrishnan 7:29
are the usual suspects. You have integral you have?
Fun do you have?
Michaela Light 7:42
well, we'll add a layer, we'll add a list.
Kishore Balakrishnan 7:45
Michaela Light 7:49
Kishore Balakrishnan 7:50
So you have all the all your regular sponsors, who will be there, and you could talk to them as well. And if you don't know how to chat with the rep, you could do that. And there's a audience hangout as well. So you if you want, you could talk to any of the other attendees as well.
Michaela Light 8:12
So I had a quick peek online, I see media three muira, coalesce host tech integral, of course, you mentioned found your auto solutions. Very good. So there'll be like a sponsor area where you can learn about them and chat with them if you have questions. Exactly. And then the the audience area, you'll be able to chat with other attendees. Is that what you're saying?
Kishore Balakrishnan 8:36
Yes. If you know who the attendees are, and if they sort of make that information, public, you could chat with them as well.
Michaela Light 8:45
Oh, cool. So that's like the hallway track, as they say, exactly, ma'am, into other attendees, or speakers or Adobe staff, will the Adobe staff be attending this year, because last year had like 20 people all the way from the development office in India,
Kishore Balakrishnan 9:02
done by this time, the entire Adobe team is going to be there for you guys.
Michaela Light 9:07
Because I remember last year was really interesting to talk to them about what they were working on. And you know, if you had a problem in ColdFusion, they often either could answer it or, you know, redirect you to someone who could answer it. And they were doing demos of all the cool new stuff, you know, in the performance monitor and the API manager and you know, in ColdFusion, language and all kinds of stuff. So are they going to do similar things? Or?
Kishore Balakrishnan 9:33
Yes, so we would be, we would be there in one of the booths as Oh, okay, so you could drop by and ask any question that you want about confusion? Or if you have any issues, you're also more than half. We are more than happy to help you out?
Michaela Light 9:49
Or can we give opinions on what we think should be in ColdFusion 2020 or
Kishore Balakrishnan 9:53
what you're more than welcome, but by that time, God vision 2020 will be out the next version. Could be out. So
Michaela Light 10:01
Oh, too late for that. But we can tell we can make suggestions to ColdFusion 2022. Exactly. Yes. Because probably, you're starting the process to decide what to put that in. As soon as this one goes to bed, yes,
Kishore Balakrishnan 10:16
that will be of great help. If you want any feature that you want to get in, that will be the right time ship is going to be there. And the engineering team is going to be there. So you get the floor when you're dropping by our booth.
Michaela Light 10:32
All right, well, that that pays for the cost of admission in itself, I would say which is cost, the cost is actually free. So it's, it's like you're giving money to the attendees. Because if they learn all this knowledge, and they're able to get their tech problem solved, or contribute to what goes in the next version sounds to me they they come out winners.
Kishore Balakrishnan 10:51
Yeah. And also, you could always watch out for some of the prizes, cool prizes, which the sponsors might also end up giving out. And also we have a raffle. As an field event in Vegas, we always have a raffle for each of the session. So you might get a chance to win that as well.
Michaela Light 11:14
Wow. So you might get some free software out of it as well. Very nice as
Kishore Balakrishnan 11:19
well. And good. offer some free goodies, you know, okay, we get some pretty good
giveaways. Right? You do.
Michaela Light 11:29
So you mentioned speakers? How many speakers are you thinking will be there this year, because I looked on the website only saw, you know about 15. But you have more coming or we have more coming. So we already have submissions from close to around 60 people and we have already selected
Kishore Balakrishnan 11:50
35 of them.
Oh, just that we still haven't gotten the confirmation of the time from the speakers. And once we get that we'll put them as well.
Michaela Light 12:02
Well, I'm looking, I'm looking at some of the speakers you've already announced. I mean, that's really famous names here. Great neurological fusion, Charlie Earhart who's been doing cold fusion forever. I think Matthew Clement a Alicia Dvorak from Adobe, Dave Ferguson, Pete retag found the O'Brien class George Murphy course Rakshit nourish. Yes. You know, works with the ColdFusion team. Brian sappy is an expert on the API manager Dan Skaggs, Mark tak, tak Kaka, if I'm saying his name, right. Dan Wilson of learns, learn CF and a week fame. So lots of cool speakers there. But I remember last year, it was like a star studded cast of speakers like anyone you know, in the ColdFusion community who speaks or write has a book or has a blog or podcast, you know, they want.
Kishore Balakrishnan 13:01
So this year, also, you will see a lot of
speakers whom we are known for throughout the years, who are leaders in their own right at the event. And this is because our chance of bringing all the community leaders together. Hopefully you guys get a lot to take away from those sessions as well.
Michaela Light 13:24
So it looks like the site needs updating because it says 28 speakers on the site. So you're gonna have to have a quick there.
Kishore Balakrishnan 13:29
Viva Viva. So the thing is, we are waiting for the confirmation on the speakers on the s on their available time slot to put up the agenda as well. So and then it says
Michaela Light 13:42
on the sign it says 500 attendees so that I think that's missing a zero.
Kishore Balakrishnan 13:49
Yeah, we had given. So the feedback has already been given to the folks will maintain the website, so they will be updating it by the time you go live with the podcast.
Michaela Light 14:01
All right, well, excellent. And I'll give out the URL again at the end. But in case anyone's curious is CF summit dot Adobe events.com. And we'll put that in the show notes on the Terra tech site. So what do you have? And can you share some of the topics that will be covered? I'm guessing there'll be some stuff on cF 2020?
Kishore Balakrishnan 14:23
Yes, so definitely there will be more special sessions on the coming. Release. So we have Brian class who will be talking about the CF lambda which were coming out but you know, the serverless how you could run coefficient on a serverless environment.
Michaela Light 14:43
Oh, how cool. Yeah, that's how Pete free tack runs his fix inator. Sorry about the fireworks going on in the background. They love letting fireworks off here.
Kishore Balakrishnan 14:57
At least someone has something to celebrate about. I hope that's a solution.
Michaela Light 15:01
Oh, yeah, that's celebrate transline We're glad to be alive and we think it's 730 in the morning, you should be awake yourself. Sometimes they'll come up at 4am if it's like a special Saints Day, you know, in Peru, they, you know, they do well, they're not parading around the streets right now. But they used to do that they get one of those statues, you know, that weighs like a ton and paraded around, let fireworks off. It's quite out whatever.
Kishore Balakrishnan 15:31
Okay, maybe next time I should go. By better.
Michaela Light 15:34
Yes, you come come drop by just on the way to Las Vegas, you just kind of turn left as you're coming into last Los Angeles.
Kishore Balakrishnan 15:43
So I hope this session, I know we got a plaque.
Unknown Speaker 15:47
Kishore Balakrishnan 15:49
I think I think it should we'll be doing this language enhancements, talk for the next release of coefficient. And I think we also have a Dan, who will be talking about if I remember correctly about modernizing coefficient applications, but the API's I think he'll be talking about the usage is usage of the API management platform. And
let me get this right, I think,
Charlie, of yesterday talking to Charlie about what topic he should be talking about, because, you know, Charlie, he could talk about any of the topics. So, right now, we are slated in for two sessions. I hope he agrees to do both.
Unknown Speaker 16:35
Kishore Balakrishnan 16:39
I think Peters, you know, beat is going to be talking about the security of your version. And Mike Collins will be talking about the document workflows. And Chad de Ferguson, I think this topic is something around SQL. If SQL or something else, sorry, I don't have the sheet with me. But that's what we were thinking about. And Matt Clemente, I think is going to talk about command box. Oh, come on box. Well, that's Yeah. So you have all these great speakers, who's going to be talking about various topics, which are, which we think is going to be definitely very interesting for our customers.
Michaela Light 17:28
Excellent. And I assume either Brian sappy or Alicia devore. AK will be talking about the API manager and how that's changed.
Kishore Balakrishnan 17:36
I think Elisha is going to be talking about the PDF functionalities.
Michaela Light 17:47
EDF? Yeah. What CDF? PDF? Oh, PDF. Sorry. Sorry. I've been doing all this CDI stuff. And I haven't.
Unknown Speaker 17:56
Michaela Light 17:58
So, um, and wow,
Kishore Balakrishnan 18:01
I think Brian Sapp is going to be talking about API management platform as well. All right. I think they're going to talk about their usage of performance API management platform and how, what are the issues they face and how they overcome those? Hmm.
Michaela Light 18:23
Excellent. Well, I'm sure by the time this episode comes out, you'll have more details on the website, and probably a few more speakers popping up there. I'm excited to see that. And what about the new features? You mentioned Rakshit? We'll be talking about what's new in ColdFusion 2020. But are there a whole bunch of new features in 2020? Yes, so
Kishore Balakrishnan 18:51
our engineering team below will also have three or four sessions where we'll be talking about the new features of of the next release. Ah, I think we have a lot of good great speakers from engineering like Satya Mishra. And I think Mukesh, the couple of other speakers as well be talking about, you know, these are the folks who have actually worked on the speak features. And if you need a sort of low down into what how exactly the feature works. These are the guys whom you should be talking to.
Michaela Light 19:31
Yeah, I remember when I went to CF summit India and bang, bang LaRue. Last year that the whole you know, the Adobe engineering team, were talking about a lot of insider stuff, and you know, what you could do with the features and stuff I didn't realize, you know, because you've read the documentation, it doesn't always tell you exactly clever things you can do with it. So it was great to see them they're talking about it.
Kishore Balakrishnan 19:59
I don't know conditional team has some work to do, because the team's keeps churning out features and the documentation. I think, I feel sorry for the documentation guys.
Michaela Light 20:09
Yeah, well, it's like they're in competition, you know, they try to keep up and then they, they document it. And you know, and then they write new features. Yeah.
Kishore Balakrishnan 20:17
But so it was a great guy sort of was responsible for the documentation. He's always on top of things.
Michaela Light 20:26
Very cool. So what about the the future of cold fusion cold fusion 2022, I know is already on the drawing board will be any discussion about that, or
Kishore Balakrishnan 20:42
In the summit, we are also planning on having two panel discussions. One is about the modernization. The second one is, will be I think about the future of ColdFusion. And I think that will be a place where worship might reveal support his plan, for the next release is going to be and since it's a panel discussion, it be a great time for you guys, for the, for our customers, also to come on board and
hear from the panel as well as give their own ideas.
Michaela Light 21:16
When we're in these talks, will you be able to give questions to the speakers like you can, you know what? So you'll be able to ask questions or say when something isn't clear, and there'll be a respond, you could call that
Kishore Balakrishnan 21:29
is all live, these are all live seminars that is happening.
happening. It's not like anything is pre recorded.
Michaela Light 21:39
Right. So anything could happen, they could have their child come up behind them in the interview, like that happens on the BBC.
Kishore Balakrishnan 21:49
Someone's running behind them. So anything could happen.
Michaela Light 21:56
Anything is possible at a home office. So I think we will understand that now.
Kishore Balakrishnan 22:02
Right. So we're not used to that.
So what's happening is always
Michaela Light 22:08
something hat. And you know, they might have an interesting tech question, or you know, about the topic or well, will they be showing code at all during this? I know, that's happened in past CF summits?
Kishore Balakrishnan 22:21
Yes, they would be? They would?
Michaela Light 22:24
And then will there be a way for people to to get a copy of the code they demo? Or how will that work?
Kishore Balakrishnan 22:31
So that will always be the same case, the copy of the code I think, either if the what we are doing is we are asking the speakers to put it in their notes itself so that they uploaded on GitHub or something like that. immediately available for the guys who will be using the on demand webinars.
Michaela Light 22:51
Oh, great. Because that you know, I I really like it when I learned something cool. And then I immediately I can play with the code myself and find out. So we're Do you know if that will be available the same day they give the talk or as be published later? You're
Kishore Balakrishnan 23:05
asking, we're asking our speakers and our speakers are always pretty prompted doing that. Excellent.
Michaela Light 23:12
So let's get down to some of the details on this. What are the dates of the CF summit this year?
Kishore Balakrishnan 23:19
It's November 17 to 19th. November 17 to 19th. Just before Thanksgiving in the United States? Yes, that's the one he thought that we could figure it out inside. So I'm sorry if some of them couldn't make it. But hey, the recordings are always available.
Michaela Light 23:39
Well, I think it's quite before Thanksgiving. Is that the week before or before? The week before Thanksgiving? Oh, that's usually I'll get people used to travel to the end of the week. And so this is Tuesday the 17th. What are the dates again? The 17th 17th through 19th. Okay, so it's three days this year.
Kishore Balakrishnan 24:01
Ah, technically it's two days but since there are three different time zones that we are trying to cover it because three days, call it Don't be surprised to see each timezone having only two events for two days.
Michaela Light 24:16
Got it? So anyway, that's the Tuesday through Thursday of the week before most people don't travel. The earliest someone I've ever heard traveling is typically the weekend before Thanksgiving. Often people don't even travel until Wednesday before Thanksgiving. And this year, who knows how many people are even traveling, you know? Yeah, I don't think so many people will be traveling,
Kishore Balakrishnan 24:37
keeping our fingers our fingers crossed, so that the people are able to travel and be with their families.
Michaela Light 24:43
Yeah, I hope I hope they are. But you know, travel is a bit disrupted. We have a presidential and electrical election going on the maybe excitement from that. I hope not but you know, got to allow for that possibility. So you Thanksgiving will be a nice break from all that. Totally whatever. Chaos.
Kishore Balakrishnan 25:06
Michaela Light 25:08
Yeah. Fortunately, you don't have those kind of problems in India right now. No problem. So, I know I, I've been there. I love India, and it's a special country.
Kishore Balakrishnan 25:22
We would love to have you back for the developer for the summit, the Indian Ocean. But hopefully, yes, that is also happening this year.
Michaela Light 25:32
I was gonna ask that is the CF summit in India going to happen this year, but that was in December last year. So it wouldn't really make sense to do
Kishore Balakrishnan 25:42
it in December, but because of the pandemic, we were not able to our offices are not open. Your offices
Michaela Light 25:49
aren't open at all? No, you haven't even been into the office?
Kishore Balakrishnan 25:56
Uh, no, actually. So the last day we were in office was in sometime in March.
Michaela Light 26:03
Oh, my goodness. It's the whole, the whole team would be together in the office there. And
Kishore Balakrishnan 26:11
so this is a challenging time for us, as well as this is the first time we are making a release, where everyone is working from home.
Michaela Light 26:19
Wow, how's that going?
Kishore Balakrishnan 26:22
Oh, the team has rallied really well. And they were actually able to take some late requests for features as well. And the engineering team has done an amazing job. Wow.
Michaela Light 26:34
Well, that's good to hear, I'm glad they're able to focus at home because sometimes it's, you know, if you're not used to working at home, I mean, I've been working from home for more than 10 years. So I kind of got used to it. I think a lot of people are new to it this year. And you know, initially it can be quite a change, or you have to find, you know, a location to do it in, it's not disturbed by you, you know, family or roommates or wherever you saw.
Kishore Balakrishnan 27:01
So what is really surprising is I see the engineering team in action, I see many, you know, flying out at level 11 3012. In the night, even I see some males coming up to in the night. And I'm wondering, like, when do these guys sleep at all? I know they are in the last stretch of
engineering this thing?
Michaela Light 27:20
How do they do sprint cycles in the engineering team? or How long are there sprints? You know?
Kishore Balakrishnan 27:28
If I don't look at a case around three weeks, but I'm not so sure.
Michaela Light 27:32
So they do a three week sprint cycle, make some new features, test them, and then demo them, you know, to make sure they're working. Okay. Yeah, very cool. How modern of the engineering team. So anything else new this year for CF summit?
Kishore Balakrishnan 27:53
Hmm. Just that you get to spear see a lot more people than you normally would. For the speakers, that will be interesting, you know, taking the session from their home. And you'll get to see a lot of sponsors as well. Typically, you know, you end up talking to one or two sponsors alone here, you get a chance to, you'll get a chance and time to talk to almost all the sponsors. One thing I really miss will be the parties.
Unknown Speaker 28:27
No parties, nobody sorry.
Unknown Speaker 28:29
Michaela Light 28:30
you were going to ship you know, party supplies to every of the 5000 attendees worldwide, you know, send them a pizza and some beers or something and we can all have a party. Yeah.
Kishore Balakrishnan 28:41
Unfortunately, not. Oh, well.
Michaela Light 28:44
Yes, I understand. But maybe there'll be some will be any attendee get togethers or other, you know, online things where people can see that friends from from CF summit.
Kishore Balakrishnan 28:58
Actually, no, but we are planning on
seeing if we could add that feature in the community portal so that people could come by and have a chat or something like that. But that would be only after the release.
Michaela Light 29:14
Okay. And I noticed the date is later this year, it's in November, instead of the usual October timeframe. Well, why is that?
Kishore Balakrishnan 29:24
We had to push back on a certain things because of some other priorities. And if you if you look at that, we did our developer week, which was supposed to be CF summit. East to from I think from me, starting to end of May. And there are other activities which we had planned for, which took a it's took us some time and number was the only timeframe available. And Max is going to be this month in October.
Michaela Light 29:58
Yeah, I'll put the link to that. I mean, I've been to Mac's a few times, that's where a lot of other Adobe products that many ColdFusion developers use.
Kishore Balakrishnan 30:08
Free this year as well.
Michaela Light 30:09
That's what I was gonna say Max is free. So if you're used to paying 1700 dollars for max, and all the travel and hotel, now you can check it out for free. Learn what's going on, you know, with all the graphic design and other products that Adobe has for for PDFs and workflow and there must be 50 other products Adobe has.
Unknown Speaker 30:33
Yes. So I'm
Michaela Light 30:36
pretty sure there's something in there to his interest every CFO, so I'll put the link to max in there as well. Are you going to be going to max or
Kishore Balakrishnan 30:48
I will I always check out all the session most of the sessions and Max as well as the summit. Adobe's in the marketing one, not the content.
Michaela Light 30:57
I know last year you went you and Alicia went to some other competitive, you know, programming conferences?
Kishore Balakrishnan 31:05
Yes, we went to developer week, and we were there this year as well. We were there in February.
Attending that event.
Michaela Light 31:16
All right. If you're going to any other online programmer events this year or
Kishore Balakrishnan 31:22
no, nothing after that, because after that the pandemics broke. And we had to, you know, step back a lot of other events, which we're planning on doing.
Michaela Light 31:32
Kishore Balakrishnan 31:33
Hopefully next year, maybe,
Michaela Light 31:35
maybe next year, because it's a good way to go out and, you know, talk to people who were interested in ColdFusion, but maybe haven't used it for 10 years and have no idea how much better it is than it was, you know, 10 years ago. So why should Why should all CFS go to CF summit,
Kishore Balakrishnan 31:58
we have done a lot of changes. To give credit to the engineering team, we have done a lot of changes in the product for this release, which we were not able which we actually thought were initially when we started, you know scoping out cF 20, the next release of cold fusion, we never thought we will be able to accomplish this much. So you will see all of that in action at CF summit. Whether you want to go on the cloud or whether you want to do a CI CD pipeline or even automate your installation. Or if you want to do a multi cloud thing. You will see all of that in action at CF summit 2021 30.
Michaela Light 32:45
Sorry, 2020 slip of the tongue there. And also a chance to you know, talk with some of the ColdFusion speakers, the Adobe staff, other Coffee Roasters through the platform
Kishore Balakrishnan 33:02
will be able to get in touch with almost all the community leaders. And yes, we are having two panel discussions and if you have any questions or any thoughts, any suggestions, feel free to drop by the panel discussions as well.
Michaela Light 33:21
Excellent. So and and also contribute to the future of cold fusion, you know, called the next version called fusion 2022. So, definitely worth doing that.
All right. So
any other things we should talk about CF summit that we forgot to mention?
Kishore Balakrishnan 33:46
I'm gonna mention about
the raffles that we usually do a for each session.
Michaela Light 33:52
So you did you said there's lots of cool software for Adobe ns and other sponsors. So
Kishore Balakrishnan 33:59
looking forward to seeing all of you guys at CF summit.
Michaela Light 34:04
Excellent. So I have one more question for you. I don't know if you're allowed to answer this. But everyone is asking when is ColdFusion 2020 going to be released?
Unknown Speaker 34:17
Michaela Light 34:20
In in 2020 Okay, well, that. That is definitely good information. I ran a survey in one of the online ColdFusion groups that you know, that is one of the possibilities definitely going to be in 2020.
Kishore Balakrishnan 34:33
That's all I could say, okay. It's not that long. That's good. Because you believe it? Yeah. No, there's
Michaela Light 34:40
only what we're still in September as we're recording this. So it's only three months. So it's got to be either October, November or December. Maybe it would be good to see it. Yeah, well, I did. I ran a survey and we got all kinds of replies as to when it might be out. So and I will be, you know, I will tell you some people did think it would be 2021. So, it is good news, because, you know, given the pandemic, and and also given the enormous engineering challenge of all the new moving to the cloud and, you know, making the install, customizable, and all the other cool features that was not an engineer,
Kishore Balakrishnan 35:24
that that was not the issue. I think the whole issue was, you know, most of them were working from home the first time and some of them were stuck in places where they couldn't, you know, be productive, as productive as they would like to be. So, we went down to a full full on lockdown immediately. So that's,
Michaela Light 35:45
yes, India was very efficient. Maybe maybe a little too efficient in this particular case. Exactly. Well, cool, a firm. I'll put a link to the CF summit in the show notes. If people want to find you online. What's the best way to reach out to you?
Kishore Balakrishnan 36:06
They could reach out to me either via Facebook, Twitter, or, you know, my email id melodies, Kishore adobe.com. Feel free to drop in a mail.
Michaela Light 36:20
All right, well, we'll put all those things in the show notes. So I look forward to seeing you in November at CF summit online,
Unknown Speaker 36:30
Michaela Light 36:31
Yes, and thanks so much for coming on the podcast.
Kishore Balakrishnan 36:35
Thank you so much for having me. Always a pleasure. All right.