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Michaela Light 0:01
Welcome back to the show. I'm here with Jorge Reyes, from Ortus Solutions, and we're going to be talking about everything into the box. You may be wondering why that would even interest someone who does cold fusion, we're going to explain why everyone who does cold fusion should be checking out this event. And there are options for going in person, and also for being able to see the sessions recorded afterwards. So we'll talk all about that. If you don't know, Jorge, he has been doing cold fusion for years. He's originally from El Salvador, where he learned systems engineering, and the bachelors Institute of Technology in Monterrey. Wow, I never knew that. Just check this out. But he works for autists you're kind of basically their operations, project management. Kind of keep it up there. Lot of hats and l intuiting. The hat that you're the brother of the famous Luis Mahana.
Jorge Reyes 0:59
We're somewhat related. We're not really family, but he's is like my brother. Yes.
Michaela Light 1:04
He's like your brother. Yeah, he's your brother in Christ or something that 100% Or your brother in box? I'm not sure both maybe. So. And he's currently Oh, he lives in Switzerland. So thanks for coming to Switzerland, a great location for connecting with all the Lucy folks in Europe. So if you go to CF camp, I know we're talking about into the box here. But if you go to CF camp in Germany, you're highly likely to see him there. So in his copious spare time, he's a worship pastor at a church in Switzerland, a Spanish speaking church, I believe. That's
Jorge Reyes 1:42
Correct.
Michaela Light 1:44
So welcome away.
Jorge Reyes 1:47
Thanks for having me. Miko. All right. So I believe you are a sponsor as well.
Michaela Light 1:52
We are a silver I was keeping on the down low about that. But I will let it get out of the bag and say, Yeah, Tara tickets a silver proudly is a silver sponsor of into the box. And, you know, we're so so awesome, because I just think you guys do great things with all the box products and putting this conference together. As you know, I ran a conference called cfunited for like 11 years in the DC area, it was an enormous amount of work. And I could get total hats off respect to orders for running a conference, I just, I know how much work it is to find speakers and get the speakers to give their information in a timely way and get the audio visual work. Good. And the food is good and all and then you have last minute problems that come up, you know that you try and hide from the attendees and just you know, resolve the problems, but it's having an in person event is a lot of work. So respect you for doing this. I think we all really appreciate your
Jorge Reyes 2:52
Sponsorship for sure.
Michaela Light 2:53
Yeah. Is this your 11th? Year? Or? Let
Jorge Reyes 2:57
Me see. I think the first one was 1213. So yeah, 11th year? Yeah. Currently 12 I think it is the 11th. One,
Michaela Light 3:06
You think it's 11? Okay, well, great success on it. But what is into the box? Because I think a lot of our listeners might be thinking, well, I don't use command box or cold box or forge box or you know, wire but I can't even remember there's so many box products. Now they're all open source, I think at this point,
The vast majority. Yes.
The box. So it's not it is there is some content on those box products for ColdFusion. frameworks and tools. Right.
Jorge Reyes 3:36
So in general terms into the box is just a cool conference for web developers, obviously, especially for those who work with CFML.
Michaela Light 3:44
Ernie focused on CFML, if you don't do CFML, you're gonna get quite out of it.
Jorge Reyes 3:51
That's, that's a fair fact. So it's a place to learn from experts, all of our team members attending their and giving sessions. They're basically experts in what they do. And it's also an opportunity to get hands on in workshops that we have before the event, and meet with people who are just as passionate about you. You know, in terms of coding, so it's great. It's all about sharing knowledge, improving skills, and having a great time with the community. And about the perception that it's a box product. Conference. I think there the interesting things about that one, the name obviously suggests a little bit of that to the box. Yeah, I think there's underlying misconception around that perception. And probably is it has to do with the naming of our products. If you notice, they all have boxes in them. And so what is that? So some people think that in order to use any of these box products, they actually We need to be using coal box. No coal box, as you already know, is kind of the first open source project that we put out there in the world. 2006 is the framework MVC framework developed by Lise Mahana, the CEO and owner of Otter. And this framework has a lot of supporting libraries that work specifically and exclusively with it, like Firefox for dependency injection, or Cashbox, for caching logbooks we're logging, but we also have other bugs products that may or may not be used with coldbox. I call them codebooks agnostic products, meaning, these are libraries that are unbiased towards the use of any specific grammar, you could be using a legacy app and no framework and still leverage some of the box products out there. So in these group, we have libraries such as text text box, for example, or our multipurpose tool of awesomeness. command box, right, you can use that. So even if you're not using coal books, and don't want to use coal books, or not planning to use coal books in the near future, there are still box products available for you out there that you can leverage in your development to make you more productive. So I think the real question people ask themselves is into the box all about coal box? And our answer is, No, it isn't. And I think actually, this year, the vast majority of the content includes topic, which you don't necessarily need coal box for. So I can take you through to the site to see some of the session if that's okay. My fella, I can show that.
Michaela Light 6:35
Yeah, I just want to add in not, you know, although I would say more than half the sessions are related to a box product, I'd say there's a good chunk of just pure confusion. stuff in there. For example, we'll get into all the sessions by see one on vs. Code and cops. Are you seeing my screen? You know, we're posting I am seeing your screen, though. I think you need your font to be about three times bigger if anyone on YouTube is going to be able to watch the setback. Yeah, pump up the pump up the phone.
Jorge Reyes 7:13
Okay, so
Michaela Light 7:16
Let's, let's go through this. And maybe we can start off the so the conference is in May 2024 This year, and it happens every year. And it's happening in a new location. We'll give details on that later. But basically, it moved from Houston, Texas to Washington, DC, lots of ColdFusion developers in the Washington DC metro area. So great chance for them to take the metro. It's at a near a Metro accessible ACC place. So but the first day you have a three days and the first day is pre conference workshops. So luxury also
Jorge Reyes 7:50
For people overseas. It opens up the opportunity for them to take a shorter transatlantic flight to attend the conference. So we had a lot of a huddle of interest over the years from people from abroad, wanting to attend but you know, Texas was a little bit harder to get from Europe, for example, well
Michaela Light 8:12
Plus you go to Texas is mandatory to eat Texas barbecue, and not all Europeans are on board with that.
Jorge Reyes 8:18
So I'm not sure if that's an issue. But it is mandatory. That is true.
Michaela Light 8:24
Joking. So what's the first workshop you've got there that's flashing away, and we'll just speak about it to for the listeners listening on iTunes or any whatever audio they're listening to. Right. So
Jorge Reyes 8:39
We have three workshops. Two of them are called books related. One of them is not really cool books related. The first one is reactive finance with CFML CB wire and alpine Jas, this is workshop provided by Grant Copley, who is actually the CB wire guy on our end. So you're going to be learning from the actual guy building the CB wire module. So pretty cool hands on.
Michaela Light 9:04
Yeah, maybe folks who are watching click on that read more so that people who are on YouTube can actually see it it's got lots of goodness. So when you say reactive it's kind of one page one of those single page applications or it's not not using React for it. It's using Alpine Jas is that how I'm reading this?
Jorge Reyes 9:30
It's combined with Alpine
Michaela Light 9:31
Jas Yes. So combined with it. Okay, so is using React? It is. All right. Well, it's very popular front end framework that works great with cold fusion. So this is gonna help just so I'm clear. These are hands on workshops where you bring your laptop and you kind of code along with it or
Jorge Reyes 9:51
You need to there are some prerequisites that are listed there. Also, okay Eventbrite page. You're gonna see them before you register.
Michaela Light 9:58
So the prerequisites is on this you have to can't command box a sword VS code editor preferred though I guess he looks at people with other editors. And you need to know how to do CFCs. So
Jorge Reyes 10:09
Ideally, that will be the prerequisite for you to understand CFCs. And then, then we have the bare metal to the cloud migrating legacy applications to Amazon Web Services by Daniel Garcia and John Clawson. This is an example of a non coal box or box oriented workshop, within people are requesting these a lot from us, we've been helping a lot of customers migrate to the cloud. Mostly because they're, they're not happy with their current hosting providers. I'm not gonna mention any names, but knows
Michaela Light 10:47
As a nameless hosting provider who's been having problems unfortunately, deed.
Jorge Reyes 10:52
So a lot of people seeing AWS as an alternative and wanting to move into it. So you know, you do it enough times, and then you start figuring out this kind of this recipe, you you can repeat, with some, a little bit of variation from one product to the other. But that's kind of the idea behind this, Danny and John have been tackling this migration projects, and they're there to teach you what they've learned in there. So you can potentially do that with yours. Then we have the one, if you want to dive into it a little bit in their prerequisites as well. Bring your laptop, come on box, and work in your laboratory with
Michaela Light 11:33
Cold fusion already installed on it. I've heard of people going to CF summit and they forgot to install cold fusion on their laptop. Yeah, well, you get half the work.
Jorge Reyes 11:43
Box, just commandlets will be enough.
Michaela Light 11:45
That's true. It's the quick route to installing cold fusion, you don't have to install it. Indeed, command box is a ridiculously simple install.
Jorge Reyes 11:55
There is no exact you just run it we have the Cobourg seven, unleashed, basically, a workshop from Lisa Hannah showing you all the cool stuff with the new release of cobalt seven. Excellent. And day one, we have a lot of interesting sessions. And as you can see here, we have quite a few sessions that are not really box related. Once you know we have principles and techniques to write more durable code, right. Then we have hitless content for the win user rights management dashboard, you can see security, that's one that that's focused on a seat on a coolbox module, right. But I would say half or even more or not related to boss products, baileigh complaints,
Michaela Light 12:46
Let's go into a bit more detail on Yeah, on each of these, we can say a few sentences on each one to get people who are curious on it. So that first one principles and techniques to write more durable code with Jacob beers, and that's writing code that's easier to maintain, I think, if I'm reading it, right. So at the websites, it used to be.org, you can read the full description yourself, but we've got it up on the screen for those on video. Yep.
Jorge Reyes 13:20
It's interesting, because I used to know this schedule by heart. But this is the first not last year was a little bit like that, where we have now a team that's dedicated to coming up with the schedule and uploading the schedule as well. So I'm not that familiar with some of the sessions here. No worries, we'll talk through what what I know is that we ensure that it's great quality content, and provided by people that are really know what they're talking about. So Jacob beers is one of our senior developers. He recently joined on to us last year, and he's a rock star. So I'm pretty sure he is going to deliver a great session here. principles and techniques to write more durable code. Avoid clever code, inversion of control composition or inheritance that are general rules of thumbs there is going to be sharing with you guys. Then we have built a complex web form with toolbox and test box does interesting because Annette, this key, I hope I'm not mispronouncing Her last name is not an auto speaker. And this is her first time speaking into the box. And she's using our stuff. So we always get excited about that. And wanted to present about robux which is which is a real rule engine that Louise created a couple of years ago. So what is a rule engine? That's a good question. It's an engine to help you program logical rules. To avoid or replaced a lot of his if statements and add some complexity to it in a more structural way, though me mine, non developer way of putting it out. Excellent.
Michaela Light 15:15
Well, well welcome to enter the box and that she comes from the University of Virginia where she does development in ColdFusion. So what's next?
Jorge Reyes 15:26
User rights management dashboard uses CB security. Everyone Wilson, this is one of our customers. It's part of the development team of Penn State University, I believe. And they're using our stuff and they want to share some of their cool stuff they're doing. And user rights management is for them really important. So they're going to be sharing what they're doing with that NCQA security. So that's pretty cool.
Michaela Light 15:54
Very cool, because the CB and CC CB security stands for coal box. So right, that's a coal box module X
Jorge Reyes 16:00
Framework for that, indeed. All right, well, had all this content for the wind. I believe this is called the box. Let me see if we see it here. So with the new version of content books, now, basically, what we have is an API layer where you can actually query the content, and you can make the front end be whatever you want. So that's a headless CMS in that sense. So I think this is basically a presentation of that, and all the features that are available to you for the headless side of things with the new version of content box.
Michaela Light 16:38
Wow, very modern. And that's Luis Mohan. Oh, and as my
Jorge Reyes 16:44
Acevedo, yeah, as a senior developer in autos, as well, and Louise Mahan, obviously the CEO and lead architect of all things box. And then we have teaming the data sprawl strategies for managing and controlling data proliferation. Interesting. So hadn't seen this in detail. This is from congrats. So congrats. owns company, cool computer know how they are. Solution partners are two solutions. We work together closely. And they are also quite experienced with our tools. I'm not 100% sure what he's gonna be using here in terms of the tech stack, but certainly looks interesting.
Michaela Light 17:36
Yeah, making sure your data doesn't get replicated out of control, I think.
Jorge Reyes 17:45
Yep, indeed. Understand the data lineage for better data tracking and management, data lifecycle management, data sprawl, and the cloud automation tools for data control.
Michaela Light 17:58
And casing this refers to big data as well or data warehousing. So data sprawl is just you got to you know, your data is growing too quick. You got too much of it. You don't know how to usefully use it.
Jorge Reyes 18:14
Indeed, yeah, topics, data and big data. So yeah.
Michaela Light 18:19
Right, what's next?
Jorge Reyes 18:21
We have the most trading monitoring solutions for CF and Lucy Charlier.
Michaela Light 18:26
Let me guess that's Charlie Earhart, right? Yes. Let me guess a mistake is gonna be using fusion reactor. Alright, I would guess he is yes, because he knows all about fusion reactor. AD, but he knows a lot about fixing server performance issues. So he's a very knowledgeable speaker.
Jorge Reyes 18:45
Indeed. And if you're sure actress, very powerful tool.
Michaela Light 18:49
You are also trained to be a pastor, by the way, if you didn't know.
Jorge Reyes 18:53
Yeah, I know. He was. He had something to do with that. Somebody went to a seminary
Michaela Light 18:58
For like, however many years you go to seminary, but then he decided to be a programmer instead.
Jorge Reyes 19:03
Interesting. Yes, we all get to that crossroad. And you go.
Michaela Light 19:09
So yeah, if you've got problems with your server, you want to learn how to monitor your server prevent crashes, and slowdowns. Great tool to go to. And it's interesting to have some very cool AI features, which I imagine he will be demoing.
Jorge Reyes 19:26
And he's saying here is going to help you out whether you're running on servers containers or via combat box. I like it
Michaela Light 19:34
Very good. Excellent a what's next, Pixie
Jorge Reyes 19:38
BQ jobs and tasks in the background? This is pretty awesome. I don't know the intricacies of how this works. But I know Eddie Petersen created the CPQ module. And we're leveraging for some of our customer projects right now. And I've seen incredible things that he can leverage So, to give you an example, let's, let's consider a management and investment portfolio management application that is in charge of, on a regular basis, pulling data from different integrators for financial information and then executing the purchase and sell, selling off equity. And imagine CPQ in the background, just running all types of jobs, executing those tasks in a very efficient manner. And at a high scale. So this is a very powerful session, I really recommend this one.
Michaela Light 20:41
Yeah, even if you're not going to use CPQ, maybe using rabbit MQ, or some of the other queueing tools out there. Just understanding what queueing is and how you could use it in your apps is really powerful. Indeed. It's like a game changer, particularly if you've got different, you know, microservices, or you're talking to other applications, it's a reliable way of gluing your different bits of your app together. So definitely worth checking out. And I just want to interrupt you're going through these sessions to say when I've been to enter the box, part of the thing is, is like opening my eyes, like, oh, you can do that there's a tool for that this is a technique. And it you know, just being aware that a solution exists is often a big advantage. And to
Jorge Reyes 21:35
Be honest, I think that's 100%, the intention, I think, you know, the sessions are relatively short, right? We try to keep it short, it's 45 minutes, you're not going to be able to absorb everything, and be ready to get things going on your end with something new. But it's just those aha moments where, Hey, I didn't know you could do that. So you can actually, when you go back home and do your job, then you can actually worry about looking more into it and implementing it. So that's kind of the idea behind all the sessions, actually.
Michaela Light 22:14
And I think all the sessions get recorded and are available on CF casts if you've been an attendee of the event. So that is correct. And so you can always refer, you know, if you missed something in the middle, you can go back and refer to it, it's, I think it's possible to buy those recordings separately. If you don't attend in person, maybe I shouldn't say that. Because we want people to attend in person, but we
Jorge Reyes 22:37
Do it every year. We haven't confirmed that for this year. Okay. Just because it's a different location, that guy takes care of that. I'm not sure if he's going to be able to get there.
Michaela Light 22:48
Know Texas is so far from Washington, DC. I mean, it's like, gosh, I know. They even allow you you to do Texas, like things when you're there. You know, I won't speculate on things you might want to do.
Jorge Reyes 23:04
So yeah, you wouldn't imagine the the impact small changes have in the organization of events. Yeah. Anyway,
Michaela Light 23:13
let's go to the next session that gap pickins is giving
Jorge Reyes 23:17
Bsabs called Power App for mother and see if an on development womb. So I know he loves using vs. Code. He uses that on a daily basis. So I'm wondering, all the things he has figured out or created and implemented. For this to work nicely,
Michaela Light 23:35
Lot. Yes, he has lots of techniques and tips and shortcuts. And of course, there are all these extensions, you can add to VS code. So if you either using VS code or you're considering it, I'd recommend go to that.
Jorge Reyes 23:49
Yeah, I know there are there are some CF specific cm of CFML extensions available to you as well. Absolutely. So I'm pretty sure Gavin leverages the productive ones, all of them for sure. He likes the extensions. Yeah,
Michaela Light 24:04
VS code is a great editor IDE. I know people you know, they fall in love with their IDE and they don't want to let it go. So I know people use Sublime or CF builder or various other editors, but I think VS code is probably the cutting edge of IDs at this point. The only thing I don't like about it is made by Microsoft and although it's like free they still have their tentacles in there somewhere. Yeah, there is an open source version of it out there for people who are allergic to Microsoft.
Jorge Reyes 24:43
Yeah, there's there's some weird feeling always when big corporations. Yeah, tools
Michaela Light 24:48
That we use. Yes. What's the next one here?
Jorge Reyes 24:52
Let me see. Let me open this and this on this one. No. Okay, this and This. Alright, so how to make a living as a coefficient freelancer? Nolan irk that's what I have here.
Michaela Light 25:08
Okay. Nolan is a great speaker, he runs a user group in Sacramento, I think, yeah,
Jorge Reyes 25:14
He's pretty cool. We've worked in the past as well, multiple locations to serve our customers. Here. He's great. And he's a great teacher, for sure. One of the most viewed training series in CF casts is the object oriented programming for confusion that he created for us. And everybody who has very good feedback about his teaching style and all that. So he's very detail oriented and goes at a very nice pace. And he is good at explaining stuff. So I'm curious about this session, because this seems to be more of a business approach to how to make a living out of working for confusion. So it is this isn't won't be a technical talk, though. I think part of the content is specific to the confusion industry. As it stands now. The content will be both specific to CF developers as well as general freelance consulting information. So I'm curious to see him delivering a session that is not really technical, so I'm pretty sure he's gonna be great boss he's been freelancing for, since I can't remember. So
Michaela Light 26:30
I'm sure he has at least 1515 years here. So he's got lots of experience and anyone thinking of freelancing or just doing freelancing on the side? A lot of people do. It'd be good to do this and avoid some mistakes that people often make.
Jorge Reyes 26:47
Indeed. Then we have the coal box debugger, where some four on one being advanced debugging techniques for Cobos application. This session was centered by Scott Steinbeck. So Scott is one of those very active community members. He's not part of the artists team. But he's so active and very close to us that he feels I feel like he's part of the team. So definitely looking forward for the session as well. Yeah, this is one of those Kobuk specific things. Cobalt is the borrower, obviously. But quite interesting if if you're using it.
Michaela Light 27:32
Very cool. All right.
Jorge Reyes 27:35
All right, Sammy. We have in presenting intro to AWS and Gen. Ai. Interesting, for those starting their cloud journey are looking to leverage AI for their coding. He will be providing high level overview of Amazon Web Services as well as the latest AWS gene AI offerings. So Sami Jota. CF developer now working with Amazon, scenting on AWS and JNI. Cool. Then we have content bug six, what's new and called the bug six.
Michaela Light 28:15
Amin a new release. Yeah, one of the things that always happens that into the box conferences, you learn about the new releases or when new features, you get a chance to suggest features to the actual developers these box products. And so yeah, definitely. Cool. And content box is a CMS. It
Jorge Reyes 28:39
Is and now it's a headless CMS. And it has that ability. Oh, indeed. So you
Michaela Light 28:45
Can switch out the front end and keep the content all the same? Yeah.
Jorge Reyes 28:49
Or you can just worry about delivering the content as a business, and then that your customers worried about the front end? Oh, very cool. Yeah. It has all sorts of different applications. So pretty interesting speakers, junk loss, and at least Mahana. They're teaming up to present what's new and comfortable? Six? I think that's about it for
Michaela Light 29:10
Yes. What are these days? Which is secret sessions,
Jorge Reyes 29:14
Their secret?
Michaela Light 29:16
Can you share what they are? Of course, not, I
Jorge Reyes 29:19
Cannot share what they are. But I can share a little bit about that. So the we're working on an interesting project that I believe is gonna reshape the CFML landscape. Same way or even in a bigger way than COBOL stayed when he was introduced or command box. But um, you know, it's one of the things that it's feature based, is a feature based release. You do not release it until it's done. It's not a really a deadline based release. So if it's ready, that's going to be the secret session if, if not, we have enough content to fill those slots with interesting content. So you see,
Michaela Light 30:04
Hearing what this new thing is, you've got to come to the event to find out.
Jorge Reyes 30:08
Indeed, so we're really working hard to make it happen. But like I said, it's a feature base release. So if features are completed, then we're going to announce it. And then it's going to be interesting to see the response. So we have that ultra secret session covering the two tracks, because it will become a
Michaela Light 30:31
Wow, a second or 221. Keynote. There are two in the in the conference, you've got two tracks. So right, you have to pick there, but if you if you can't, if you have a conflict, you can just watch the recording for the other ones. So if we managed to record it this year, yes. If they managed to record Yes, you'll figure it out. I'm sure at least audio. And I'm sure you'll share the slides or something like that kind of slides for sure. Yeah. And the sample code I remember given out before, so
Jorge Reyes 31:02
Yeah, we're gonna do some some recording of something like that. But
Michaela Light 31:07
We'll Yeah, I'm sure you'll get I don't know if it'll be a video recording. But I'm fairly sure with Gavin runs your moderniser die podcast? Yeah, I'm pretty sure he can figure out some audio recording.
Jorge Reyes 31:20
Gavin and Brad are our AV guys as they know their their way?
Michaela Light 31:26
Well, let's move on to the next session.
Jorge Reyes 31:31
Let me see. I think we covered for day one now. Yes. On day two, on to day two, not all the sessions have been released. That's
Michaela Light 31:39
Part of the or even more sessions, but design systems.
Jorge Reyes 31:43
Let me just open everything in a new tab. So
Michaela Light 31:46
Okay, just
Jorge Reyes 31:49
All right. So the science system, the basis for system design. So Jonah is the lead designer in order to sell Salado and estimates the lead designer in Otter USA. So these are very cool. Session, I've seen the percent similar session in into the box that Tom and the recall, to give you some consistency
Michaela Light 32:16
Into that most flat ham. It's all at the box
Jorge Reyes 32:20
Version for Latinoamerica. So we host that in El Salvador every year.
Michaela Light 32:26
Is that right? Or? And November? Yes. November,
Jorge Reyes 32:29
December. Around the end of the year. We go there and and host the conference there. And
Michaela Light 32:36
for those who haven't been to El Salvador recently, it's totally change country. It used to be a disaster zones, pardon me talking about your home country this way. That's fine bit of a mess. They had a few murders and things but now that with the new president, who has been in power for five years, they kind of pretty much eliminated murders think the murder rate there's lower the Canada or various other cities, he brought probably even Switzerland, right, probably have more crime in Switzerland, they have an El Salvador now.
Jorge Reyes 33:05
All I can say is that it is really safe to be there. I go there every year. And I've seen the change, a drastic change.
Michaela Light 33:15
It's probably safer. I don't want to put people off going to Washington, DC, but it's probably safer than Washington DC. It probably is to be honest, or New York City or Los Angeles or any of the other major. And
Jorge Reyes 33:28
I don't think being safe is the actual surprise, surprising fact about it. But what is surprising is that maybe a little bit more than a year ago, we were the murder capital of the world. So that's a surprising fact. Right? So going from that place of absolute violence and murder, to being one of the safest countries in the world. That's what's amazing to me. So us
Michaela Light 33:58
Plus they use Bitcoin as one of their official currencies along with US dollars.
Jorge Reyes 34:03
It's a legal, legal tender. There is no business in the saddle that can refuse your bitcoins. So yeah, and
Michaela Light 34:13
I have I did visit there before it got turned around. I'm adventurous kind of person. Beautiful country, very friendly people. beautiful beaches, volcanoes, mountains, you know, countryside. It's quite a small country. Actually. It is. And it's very easy to get to from the United States. I think, what's the airline hubs out of San Salvador? I'm spacing out.
Jorge Reyes 34:43
The a lot of airlines. Not very nice.
Michaela Light 34:46
Now.
Jorge Reyes 34:47
I've never once yet. We have American Airlines flights from there. Oh, yeah. Okay. All the bigger airlines have flight. connecting flight. But I thought
Michaela Light 35:02
lat ham hubs.
Jorge Reyes 35:06
Let me see what I'm forgetting the name of that airline specifically Avianca.
Michaela Light 35:11
Oh yeah, Avianca hubs. That's it. That was like because at one point they were based I thought out of there. So anyway, if if you if you speak it's all in Spanish. So you if you speak Spanish worth checking it is
Jorge Reyes 35:26
Not all in Spanish because Spanish oh my god, we have speakers that are coming from the US team that will not speak Spanish. Like Rashard has been here, or John Clawson has been there, and they don't speak Spanish as Methos speak Spanish. So yes, be present in Spanish, but so we will have English sessions. Anyway,
Michaela Light 35:46
I'm just putting that idea in people's ears, if you fancy visiting a new country and seeing how much is improved, enjoy the food culture and learn some ColdFusion great opportunity, the hour
Jorge Reyes 35:59
Changing, changing a little bit the the content or the time. And we will mix it a lot with non CF content as well now. So in the future iterations gonna be a lot of different technologies front end technology, specifically as well. So
Michaela Light 36:18
All right, let's move on from design systems. What's next?
Jorge Reyes 36:23
Out of the Box coefficient applications using coefficient builder, extension for VS code, CF builder be an age in doubt, this is one of the non auto speakers as well. And this is the first time he's presenting in each box. So this is one of the sessions I'm actually looking forward to seeing what
Michaela Light 36:45
They they added in we'll see if builder came out. They built it on top of VS code. It's a paid add on, but it lets you do lots of cool things including debugging. So
Jorge Reyes 36:59
Very interesting to see looking forward to meeting you as well. So that's that. Whoa, that's an interesting name. Shredding a backup is your backup RIA backup. Oh gosh, Shawn Alton. We work in an industry where pretty much everything needs to be backed up true code or databases or web servers or file servers, in our network configurations, everything bad things happen. That's also the worst time to find out you've got a problem with your backup systems when everything has gone sideways and you need to bring it all back online right now. Interesting. So
Michaela Light 37:38
I've seen this on Epson I've seen this happen so many times people think they have a working backup they never test it you know server crashes turns out it actually something was screwed up wasn't backing up all the files the tape got corrupted tape got overwritten. You know the software to do the restore didn't work. The some human error involved.
Jorge Reyes 38:06
I think John on his right here, you don't know if your backup is alive or dead if you haven't tried to restore it. Absolutely. That's true.
Michaela Light 38:13
And that should be part of your disaster recovery planning to you actually try out your disaster recovery plan discover Can you stand up a copy of your app on another server? Indeed, so just in case there's a hurricane or aliens landed or something else crazy happened that put your data center down
Jorge Reyes 38:34
That was really bad. I think this is one of those those sessions that are meant to scare you in a good way.
Michaela Light 38:41
What's next on the schedule?
Jorge Reyes 38:43
So web hosting with command box pro Ooh
Michaela Light 38:50
I didn't know there was a version of combat what's what's Is there a pro version of command box? Or is there a new name for it?
Jorge Reyes 38:56
What is the command box pro version actually can actually share the screen here? Give me one second I'll open up the Why do I have old capsule products and you see command box Pro I cannot take off
Michaela Light 39:17
and we'll put all these links in the show notes Terra tech.com for people interested in finding out about them. So we have command box and then we have command box Pro is a different version of command box or what I'm looking for
Jorge Reyes 39:30
All is the same version in terms of the the source code for command box but you have additional stuff available for you. The the most important things you have support, right? If you're going to be running command box, in in production, we offer you a way of having support and a specific SLA according to your needs. Then we have the there are some things that are included but paid already. Oh For commercial products, like the service manager module is one of the commercial modules that we have, it's included in there, the Forge box pro account, it's already included as well, the multi server features that it's available in the new command box version. And then what else is not available? Unless you pay. That's it. That's about it. And, you know, for some companies support is a very big deal. So absolutely, that's, that's basically vailable.
And then we're going to be creating additional commercial modules around command box that are going to be available in the pro version, so and you get to get those modules available for you if you have an active subscription. So that's kind of the idea behind that. Fabulous,
Michaela Light 40:49
We'll learn all about command box and the pro version of it. Correct. And those who aren't using command box yet, you are not in the current century, you need to get up to date, try it out. It's game changing app, even. I mean, the free version of command box does amazing things. So I understand why some people want support and everything. But everyone listening can try out command box and see what cool stuff it does.
Jorge Reyes 41:17
You also get a show where it's not listed here. But you get out of here this, you get a one of the cash extension licenses. We have for Lucy specifically, we have a Redis extension of Couchbase, extension, long MongoDB extension, we even have an old PDF extension, that is not cash related. But you could choose one of those. Excellent.
Michaela Light 41:41
Well, we've got six more topics and speakers that have been announced to cover and there are some unannounced ones that you're going to announce later. Let's cover those. And then let's talk about how people can get to the event. All the other girls stuff and you have a party happening and all kinds of things. So
Jorge Reyes 42:01
Security with Eric Peterson is our module Maestro. He likes building modules. And he believes he built some for managing pass keys with CV security. And that's this presentation about passkey seems to be the next thing. beyond passwords, maybe. So this is an interesting topic
Michaela Light 42:27
Make your site more secure. Indeed.
Jorge Reyes 42:32
Then we have reactive CFML with CB wire. Same here, Grant Copley is giving a workshop about this, but also presentation. So
Michaela Light 42:43
what is CB wa for those who don't know,
Jorge Reyes 42:48
Can tell you here. It's a call box module that makes building modern reactive CFML apps a breeze without needing JavaScript frameworks such as view or react without the hassle of API's.
Michaela Light 43:02
So as a front end, to add on to command box,
Jorge Reyes 43:06
To call box to
Michaela Light 43:08
Call the box, I'm sorry, call box. There's so many boxes, I get confused.
Jorge Reyes 43:13
No worries, I get confused as well sometimes. Alright, then migrate your infrastructure to the AWS cloud. We have George Murphy. So this is somewhat along the lines of the workshop. And George Murphy is also one of the extended team members of our team. He's not really part of the auto score team. But he he helps us tap from time to time with infrastructure projects. He's well versed in all infrastructure matters with AWS and Azure. So I'm sure there's going to be pretty insightful. Then we have web accessibility for all. This is another new speaker. I haven't met her. And this is the first time that
Michaela Light 44:00
Alessia said Fondy. Come on, you've got to be brave and pronounce these people's name but at least
Jorge Reyes 44:05
Yes, civility. Yeah. So we'll dive into those four stools are interesting. But preference as well as a take a look at real life websites that have used and continue to use open source tools to prioritize accessibility compliance. This is
Michaela Light 44:24
Very important for a lot of government orientated or educational apps. And many people in the DC area work for those kinds of things. And she is from South Africa writer scholar. So congrats. So coming all the way here.
Jorge Reyes 44:42
And pretty cool. Very cool. Then we have this to cloud abstract your file operations with CB have S to be Fs file system.
Michaela Light 44:53
So CB is a closer codebox module. Indeed. and FM stands for File System. So this is kind of abstracting out all the s3 file handling that people do. Sounds like,
Jorge Reyes 45:08
Indeed speaker as John Clawson or its share developer, and potentially painter. That's his internal nickname already, and then we have revolutionized seeing tasks scheduling coolbox Giancarlo Gomez, I'm happy to see this guy. Hope I make
Michaela Light 45:30
It. He's a great guy lives in Miami, I think. Yeah, he's pretty awesome.
Jorge Reyes 45:36
He's very skillful as well. So that scheduling sounds like very interesting. We'll have to do that at some point for our apps. So I'm curious about the way he's gonna be presenting this with coolbox. So this is one of the cool books sessions that we have. And I think that's about that.
Michaela Light 45:59
Well, we need to tell people when caught into the box is happening.
Jorge Reyes 46:05
Yep. So first things first, into the box.org, you can find updated information about the event. And the conference is from May 15, to May 17. So Washington, DC, and all the relevant links, you can find them in the on the website.
Michaela Light 46:27
So that's a Wednesday through Friday. So people traveling from out of town, you wanted to spend a few a day or two in Washington, DC sightseeing, you could do that. And for those who don't know, Washington, DC, this is happening near the DuPont Circle, Metro, great area of town, lots of restaurants, cafes, bars, all kinds of good stuff there. And very easy to get to because the Metro covers the whole area into Maryland and Virginia and throughout Washington, DC. So I wouldn't try to drive there if I were you, having driven them many times, because traffic kind of sucks. But you could drive there and park if you really wanted to. But I would either get a place to stay within walking distance or take the metro to get there as my vice. And
Jorge Reyes 47:24
I would advise for people to book early was we see a tendency for people to book things, maybe four weeks, five, eight weeks before the event. And this time, we we saw that there's parallel event, the George Washington University graduation, basically, and they have the whole the whole week full of activity. So they're using up some of these hotels available. So we there's a hotel, we're going to be posting the information here so soon, it's called the Normandy Hotel. Nearby is that's where speakers on the screws that we stay in is very near the conference. They want to put in here a discount code so people can benefit from a reduced fee and get your registrations going
Michaela Light 48:19
on how much does it currently cost?
Jorge Reyes 48:23
The question here not sure if the early bird still available. So apparently, yes. There's still an early bird discount for you guys.
I think this is going to end mid March. So right now it's three 350 Sanford's only and 450 during the workshop, so the first day may 15. Wow. So if you look at now with 450 You basically get the confidence and the one a deal. Yeah, pretty good deal. And you know, meals are included. And obviously the the party box that we do
Michaela Light 49:18
what we already box.
Jorge Reyes 49:21
It's the first day event where we the first conference day event. We don't do it in the workshop day. But it's just a party where we socialize and hopefully have some mariachis there to sing. But I'm not sure we're gonna get some ranches in Washington. We'll see.
Michaela Light 49:41
We'll see you can. There's a big Mexican population and I'm sure
Jorge Reyes 49:45
We can get some I'm Stein. We're just a very picky about the body. I just want some bones.
Michaela Light 49:50
I see. Well, so
Jorge Reyes 49:53
We had our, our crew of mariachis already that we will reuse every every year in Texas but No, we're gonna find new ones. But um, yeah, that's about it. Well
Michaela Light 50:07
Shout out to optika Association who's providing the space? I know you have to pay for it. But they they did help organize it. Yeah,
Jorge Reyes 50:17
They actually gave us a very, very good discount. And yes, thanks again to our tech for sponsorship.
Michaela Light 50:28
So I would recommend anyone who does CF, consider checking this out. You can see product keynotes for free on cf costs.com, I think was one or two other sessions you can find for free on the autists YouTube channel, if you want to get an idea of what it's like. But basically, it's an intimate ColdFusion conference probably going to be about 100 people there as my guests based on previous years, and is UK. So it's not overwhelming isn't the point I'm trying to make, you're going to be able to talk to the speakers talk to the other attendees, you know, have a cup of coffee or a beer with them and talk about your what you're excited about ColdFusion. And I would say what for me personally, the number one reason to go to enter the box is you're going to leave this conference super inspired about cold fusion and what can be done with it because there are so many cool innovations and products you're going to be seeing. So if you're a bit depressed, about cold fusion, you feel like you need to get fresh and things up. This is the ideal opportunity to make your personal ColdFusion more alive. So that would be my suggestion. Do you have any other reasons you think why people should go Jorge, you've been many years. Yeah,
Jorge Reyes 51:45
I It's really all about sharing knowledge, and improving skills and having a great time with the community. So combination of all those things, we've tried to keep it and very entertaining, in the sense what people interaction we want to foster though, those interactions and we go there for the people. And I There are a lot of reasons I look forward to into the box. It's multiple things to me specifically, we are 100% remote in order to so it's a perfect opportunity to actually be with the fortress team members in person. Each of them is really awesome. I don't I don't say that lightly. Every single fortress team member that's gonna be there is awesome. I could spend, you know, an entire day with any of them just hanging out. So it's an opportunity to do that. And, you know, I was trying to pick their brains with different things. So it's an opportunity for other people to do that. We seen some people asking, you know, what I would consider consulting questions. You know, you're there, and nobody's gonna deny answering your your questions. So um,
Michaela Light 53:04
I think if you have a problem in ColdFusion, or you're not sure how to solve something, just getting that conversation either with other attendees or with some of the speakers is going to pay for the event. So I did and then personally, I think if anyone listening is feels a bit kind of behind the curve on their modern ColdFusion. Just being uplifted by learning the new stuff for the next 365 days of the year, is going to change your life in programming. Plus, you make friends there, you know, you're gonna meet other ColdFusion developers who are excited about doing modern stuff. So so many benefits of doing this.
Jorge Reyes 53:44
And did I look forward to meeting the new speakers, obviously, seeing new faces. The new location is attracting already some new faces that we we haven't seen before or do not meet. So maybe we're going to meet new customers, which makes it really exciting. Or when your team members, new future or team members, I'm not sure. It's an opportunity to meet with existing customers for us as well. And I look forward to each single session. So I think it's, it's been tailored to to provide a very solid mix of skills and knowledge. So and obviously the secret session if that happens, that alone would be worth it. But um, we'll see.
Michaela Light 54:30
Fabulous. Well, thanks for coming on the show today. If people want to find you online, what are the best ways to do that?
Jorge Reyes 54:40
Maybe LinkedIn would be the best way.
Michaela Light 54:42
Alright, well put your LinkedIn in there. I'm thinking it's something like J res. Oh, it's J res Banner as your show
Jorge Reyes 54:52
Right now. direct download.
Michaela Light 54:56
We'll put the link to the into the box and on all the solutions on there, so Oh, and I also did want to mention you did another episode with us on depression and suicide amongst CF developers. Hopefully not too many developers are about to commit suicide. But if you are, check out this episode on CF suicide that Jorge recorded with us a few years ago, and I've heard great feedback from people have been a bit depressed. He found the tips in there very helpful. I think you bumped into someone you were telling me before we hit record that it helped. Yeah,
Jorge Reyes 55:30
I was really surprised. And he thanked me for that episode. And like, Who would have thought that he actually reached out and the message was heard by people who actually needed to hear something I said that was really inspiring. So when to look at the recording and you know, my English was not really good at that time is not perfect. Today, either, but definitely a lot better. But still pretty content.
Michaela Light 56:03
It's very important. So it's episode 53 cf suicide, depression and recovery, and I'll put the link to that in the show notes. For Very good. Well, thanks so much for a great success with into the box this year and hope lots of people listening are able to attend.
Jorge Reyes 56:25
Awesome, thank you for your time, and thanks for the invitation and the sponsor.
