Below are the results to date for the 2022 State of the CF Union survey. This is the eighth and the last part of the Survey, Wrap up which covers why you like/don't like CF, your work, how you work and your comments.
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1. Server Environment | 2. Your Environment | 3. Frameworks and Methodology | 4. Tools | 5. Your Programming Background | 6. ColdFusion Community | 7. Deployment | 8. Wrap up
Questions in this part:
44. What aspects of CF are keeping you and/or your company using it? (Check all that apply)
45. What aspects of CF are preventing you or your company from embracing CF? (Check all that apply)
46. What are your company’s plans for your technology stack, if any? (Check all that apply)
47. What is your approximate salary range in USD? (Remember, this is anonymous) (Check one)
48. What is your current arrangement for CF work? (Check all that apply)
49. What industry is your company in? (Check all that apply)
50. Any additional comments/suggestions for the survey?
8. Wrap up
44. What aspects of CF are keeping you and/or your company using it? (Check all that apply)
Others
Existing long-term applications |
Long time ago we started using so legacy applications still use it |
Adobe continues to improve and modernize CF |
To old to learn a new language 😉 |
We are actively porting away from CFML |
Simple database interaction |
Lucee is free and works well |
Legacy code, in the process of replacing with different tech stack. |
Moving away from CF soon |
It's the fastest language to code in. It doesn't take a bunch of libraries imported in every program just to function. |
Too costly, in resources and time, to port to different solution |
We are moving away from it, good riddance. |
I am no longer using CF |
CMS is written in CFML |
already skilled |
Rewriting in NodeJS |
Team Specialty |
Looking to move to .NET |
1. It’s simplicity. 2. Easy and fast to teach to new developers. |
Ortus |
Familiar |
so easy to get complex tasks done quickly |
CommandBox and Forgebox for package management. It's like Node JS, but makes more sense. |
Our new CIO has declared we will be a Microsoft only shop and that CF is going away. |
Ortus Solutions and Lucee, CFML Slack |
45. What aspects of CF are preventing you or your company from embracing CF? (Check all that apply)
Others
Social media bashing |
Quite unknown in Switzerland |
Not enough YOUNG developers (Fresh Blood) |
Perception of Security |
It's sunsetting technology. You'd be a fool to persist with it |
Adobe |
Lack of support to modern security scanning tools |
No new beginner coders being actively developed in North America |
Upgrade costs have kept many people on old versions |
Lack of community support. |
Legacy code in 3 languages - too costly to consolodate. |
Adobe is too slow to support new OS versions. |
Can't stress enough Adobe poor marketing of CF |
its very underserved reputation |
the doc examples for many things are weak, especially features like building mobile apps. You are missing a great opp with this... CF is so easy to build apps, allow us to build a deploy custom mobile apps for phones. |
Just wanted to say 'Cost/licencing issues' twice, since Adobe doubled their prices. |
Adobe sucks. |
Community is small, so cutting edge solutions aren't as battle tested as in larger communities |
License Costs |
Misinformed leadership team with a Microsoft bias. |
CF is Dead --- Poor Adobe Marketing of CF |
Need better CI/CD DevSecOps tools |
I use lucee |
Super expensive Adobe licences, Lucee not fully compatible |
Nothing is preventing us. We use CF almost exclusively. |
46. What are your company’s plans for your technology stack, if any? (Check all that apply)
If migrating FROM CFML to another language, please specify
We will incorporate some Node where relevant |
Considering moving to php |
Node.JS |
Kotlin |
Moving from monolithic app to microservices (akka based) |
Puthon PHP Kotlin |
Migrating to Microservices using .NET Core |
From CF to .net.. it's a shame |
Python, Node.js |
NodeJs Python |
WordPress / PHP and Angular / React |
Node |
clients want fancy new solutions |
Java, JavaScript, Go, serverless |
.NET |
.Net |
Language agnostic bit go or jvm based |
NodeJS |
nodes express |
.net |
once we get app into a seperation of concerns state, then CF's benifit of integrating server-side with HTML becomes moot - REST API does not need CF and client side does not use CF. Microservices running CF would help mitigate departure. |
No plans |
Looking for a new enterprise CMS |
.Net Core |
python, golang |
If migrating from another language TO CFML, please specify
No plans |
PHP |
Node |
Would love to move DNN to ContentBox but really having issues putting together proof of concept |
JavaScript |
Management wants us to migrate to .NET |
47. What is your approximate salary range in USD? (Remember, this is anonymous) (Check one)
Others
Pass |
Not disclosing |
Including additional income on a per-Job basis with non-salary side projects |
We do not disclose data like this. |
Really, 85-150 |
Skip |
Can't disclose |
NA |
sole proprietor of two pivoting businesses |
I own this corporation. There is me and one other CF developer I trained myself. We supplement with Wordpress, PHP on VPS. |
I own the corporation, we offer web design and Dev to small-medium size companies. |
48. What is your current arrangement for CF work? (Check all that apply)
Others
Entrepreneure |
Currently not on a CF project. Details provided are for previous project. |
career position and co-owner and freelance on retainer. |
Full service includes development |
I have a full time CF day job and a part time CF side job |
In flux - leaving in-house employment, exploring remote opportunities, planning independent learning activities (and possible “sabbatical”) to transition from ancient to modern CF and other skills. |
sorry, I'm salary remote. But I've selected all options we employ currently. |
Personal projects |
49. What industry is your company in? (Check all that apply)
Others
Non-profit |
50. Any additional comments/suggestions for the survey?
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Question 44:
What aspects of CF keep you and/or your company using it? (Check all that apply)**
The answers don't make sense the way the question is asked
Thanks for putting this together each year. We appreciate your hard work and dedication to the community!
Would love to know if Adobe is going to update the CFExchange tags since MS is ending support for Basic Auth.
The questions have been modernised since the last time I looked at this (which was last year, I think). Good work.
Still waiting for full SQL support for query of queries (especially left join)
I am french, need to know if they are Lucee users in France, and also CF users.
To get a nearer relation.
Continue with your great work! I was very positively moved by your talks about cold depression. It's been a great help!
The entire cfml universe needs so much improvement with the onboarding of new developers. From a newbie perspective, its not very inviting or easy or modern.
When you ask Standard or Enterprise, also ask how many servers and instances are run in production. Would like to know the scale of production installs. One standard? One enterprise with 2 or 3 instances? 10 enterprise servers, 8 instances per server?
We are moving away from CFML. I wish it would be open sourced by adobe. It's time to move on. Personally I am already know the .NET which allows me to have better career and better salary.
It was a good survey. I really liked the questions. We are a community in Turkey employing approximately 500 people. We have been developing Workcube for 20 years. We love the Coldfusion community.
Feel like CF hit bottom a few years back and is having a modest resurgence. But it's not new people sadly, but people coming back to CF because it now offers features it previously lacked that forced them to leave the community.
There's a real opportunity for CF to gain popularity with Lambda/serverless as the easy to use solution. I'm hopeful but realistic they might fumble the opportunity.
We're currently beginning the transition from CF <= 2016 on three different OSs to CF 2021 on Windows.
Answers based on previous employer. Working with CF was harmful to my career because of low usage. Now working with node.js express. So nice to use same language in both front and back.
Convert the survey to be a mobile-first or friendly typeform type experience.
Organize the questions between mandatory and optional
Ask what people are looking for in 2022 from Lucee/CF
Thanks for all your work in doing this 🙂
ColdFusion is supposedly on a comeback trajectory. Is there any evidence to support this rumor?
Might be a good idea to ask if the person answering does only in house work (ie, a developer for a company that has a lot of Coldfusion projects) or works in a code shop that does CF work for client companies, or is an independent contractor. Also in addition to salary, ask what hourly rate contractors make. I've done both and it's a pretty big difference.
Check to see if participant is actually using cold fusion right at the start and curtail survey if they are not..
Adobe too slow fixing the bugs and far behind the features, tools compare to NodeJS. Plus license cost is too high. Coldfusion perceive as dead language.
No - thanks for coordinating it
Most of us in my small local CF community feel that Adobe is not fully committed to CF. It does not market it as a great alternative to existing platforms, it is very slow to launch new versions compatible with new OS versions, its cloud/serverless offering is lacking, it is slow to adopt trends (i.e.: it will probably take it about 5 more years to integrate with the Ethereum blockchain and NFTs), they no longer support visual development with Dreamweaver, and many other little things.
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