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State of the CF Union 2022 Survey Results 8. – Wrap up

August 29, 2023 By Michaela Light Leave a Comment

Below are the results to date for the 2022 State of the CF Union survey. This is the eighth and the last part of the Survey, Wrap up which covers why you like/don't like CF, your work, how you work and your comments.

For those of you who don't have time to read it now, here is a link to Download the PDF and read it later.

If you want to see the other 7 parts, just click on the section below.

1. Server Environment | 2. Your Environment | 3. Frameworks and Methodology | 4. Tools | 5. Your Programming Background | 6. ColdFusion Community | 7. Deployment | 8. Wrap up

 

Questions in this part:

44. What aspects of CF are keeping you and/or your company using it? (Check all that apply)

45. What aspects of CF are preventing you or your company from embracing CF? (Check all that apply)

46.  What are your company’s plans for your technology stack, if any? (Check all that apply)

47. What is your approximate salary range in USD? (Remember, this is anonymous) (Check one)

48.  What is your current arrangement for CF work? (Check all that apply)

49. What industry is your company in? (Check all that apply)

50. Any additional comments/suggestions for the survey?

 

8. Wrap up

44. What aspects of CF are keeping you and/or your company using it? (Check all that apply)

Others

Existing long-term applications
Long time ago we started using so legacy applications still use it
Adobe continues to improve and modernize CF
To old to learn a new language 😉
We are actively porting away from CFML
Simple database interaction
Lucee is free and works well
Legacy code, in the process of replacing with different tech stack.
Moving away from CF soon
It's the fastest language to code in. It doesn't take a bunch of libraries imported in every program just to function.
Too costly, in resources and time, to port to different solution
We are moving away from it, good riddance.
I am no longer using CF
CMS is written in CFML
already skilled
Rewriting in NodeJS
Team Specialty
Looking to move to .NET
1. It’s simplicity. 2. Easy and fast to teach to new developers.
Ortus
Familiar
so easy to get complex tasks done quickly
CommandBox and Forgebox for package management. It's like Node JS, but makes more sense.
Our new CIO has declared we will be a Microsoft only shop and that CF is going away.
Ortus Solutions and Lucee, CFML Slack
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45. What aspects of CF are preventing you or your company from embracing CF? (Check all that apply)

Others

Social media bashing
Quite unknown in Switzerland
Not enough YOUNG developers (Fresh Blood)
Perception of Security
It's sunsetting technology. You'd be a fool to persist with it
Adobe
Lack of support to modern security scanning tools
No new beginner coders being actively developed in North America
Upgrade costs have kept many people on old versions
Lack of community support.
Legacy code in 3 languages - too costly to consolodate.
Adobe is too slow to support new OS versions.
Can't stress enough Adobe poor marketing of CF
its very underserved reputation
the doc examples for many things are weak, especially features like building mobile apps. You are missing a great opp with this... CF is so easy to build apps, allow us to build a deploy custom mobile apps for phones.
Just wanted to say 'Cost/licencing issues' twice, since Adobe doubled their prices.
Adobe sucks.
Community is small, so cutting edge solutions aren't as battle tested as in larger communities
License Costs
Misinformed leadership team with a Microsoft bias.
CF is Dead --- Poor Adobe Marketing of CF
Need better CI/CD DevSecOps tools
I use lucee
Super expensive Adobe licences, Lucee not fully compatible
Nothing is preventing us. We use CF almost exclusively.
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46. What are your company’s plans for your technology stack, if any? (Check all that apply)

If migrating FROM CFML to another language, please specify

We will incorporate some Node where relevant
Considering moving to php
Node.JS
Kotlin
Moving from monolithic app to microservices (akka based)
Puthon PHP Kotlin
Migrating to Microservices using .NET Core
From CF to .net.. it's a shame
Python, Node.js
NodeJs Python
WordPress / PHP and Angular / React
Node
clients want fancy new solutions
Java, JavaScript, Go, serverless
.NET
.Net
Language agnostic bit go or jvm based
NodeJS
nodes express
.net
once we get app into a seperation of concerns state, then CF's benifit of integrating server-side with HTML becomes moot - REST API does not need CF and client side does not use CF. Microservices running CF would help mitigate departure.
No plans
Looking for a new enterprise CMS
.Net Core
python, golang
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If migrating from another language TO CFML, please specify

No plans
PHP
Node
Would love to move DNN to ContentBox but really having issues putting together proof of concept
JavaScript
Management wants us to migrate to .NET

47. What is your approximate salary range in USD? (Remember, this is anonymous) (Check one)

Others

Pass
Not disclosing
Including additional income on a per-Job basis with non-salary side projects
We do not disclose data like this.
Really, 85-150
Skip
Can't disclose
NA
sole proprietor of two pivoting businesses
I own this corporation. There is me and one other CF developer I trained myself. We supplement with Wordpress, PHP on VPS.
I own the corporation, we offer web design and Dev to small-medium size companies.

48. What is your current arrangement for CF work? (Check all that apply)

Others

Entrepreneure
Currently not on a CF project. Details provided are for previous project.
career position and co-owner and freelance on retainer.
Full service includes development
I have a full time CF day job and a part time CF side job
In flux - leaving in-house employment, exploring remote opportunities, planning independent learning activities (and possible “sabbatical”) to transition from ancient to modern CF and other skills.
sorry, I'm salary remote. But I've selected all options we employ currently.
Personal projects

49. What industry is your company in? (Check all that apply)

Others

Non-profit
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50. Any additional comments/suggestions for the survey?

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Question 44:
What aspects of CF keep you and/or your company using it? (Check all that apply)**

The answers don't make sense the way the question is asked

Thanks for putting this together each year. We appreciate your hard work and dedication to the community!

Would love to know if Adobe is going to update the CFExchange tags since MS is ending support for Basic Auth.

The questions have been modernised since the last time I looked at this (which was last year, I think). Good work.

Still waiting for full SQL support for query of queries (especially left join)

I am french, need to know if they are Lucee users in France, and also CF users.
To get a nearer relation.

Continue with your great work! I was very positively moved by your talks about cold depression. It's been a great help!

The entire cfml universe needs so much improvement with the onboarding of new developers. From a newbie perspective, its not very inviting or easy or modern.

When you ask Standard or Enterprise, also ask how many servers and instances are run in production. Would like to know the scale of production installs. One standard? One enterprise with 2 or 3 instances? 10 enterprise servers, 8 instances per server?

We are moving away from CFML. I wish it would be open sourced by adobe. It's time to move on. Personally I am already know the .NET which allows me to have better career and better salary.

It was a good survey. I really liked the questions. We are a community in Turkey employing approximately 500 people. We have been developing Workcube for 20 years. We love the Coldfusion community.

Feel like CF hit bottom a few years back and is having a modest resurgence. But it's not new people sadly, but people coming back to CF because it now offers features it previously lacked that forced them to leave the community.

There's a real opportunity for CF to gain popularity with Lambda/serverless as the easy to use solution. I'm hopeful but realistic they might fumble the opportunity.

We're currently beginning the transition from CF <= 2016 on three different OSs to CF 2021 on Windows.

Answers based on previous employer. Working with CF was harmful to my career because of low usage. Now working with node.js express. So nice to use same language in both front and back.

Convert the survey to be a mobile-first or friendly typeform type experience.

Organize the questions between mandatory and optional

Ask what people are looking for in 2022 from Lucee/CF

Thanks for all your work in doing this 🙂

ColdFusion is supposedly on a comeback trajectory. Is there any evidence to support this rumor?

Might be a good idea to ask if the person answering does only in house work (ie, a developer for a company that has a lot of Coldfusion projects) or works in a code shop that does CF work for client companies, or is an independent contractor. Also in addition to salary, ask what hourly rate contractors make. I've done both and it's a pretty big difference.

Check to see if participant is actually using cold fusion right at the start and curtail survey if they are not..

Adobe too slow fixing the bugs and far behind the features, tools compare to NodeJS. Plus license cost is too high. Coldfusion perceive as dead language.

No - thanks for coordinating it

Most of us in my small local CF community feel that Adobe is not fully committed to CF. It does not market it as a great alternative to existing platforms, it is very slow to launch new versions compatible with new OS versions, its cloud/serverless offering is lacking, it is slow to adopt trends (i.e.: it will probably take it about 5 more years to integrate with the Ethereum blockchain and NFTs), they no longer support visual development with Dreamweaver, and many other little things.

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