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135 Lucee Migration (8 CFML code moving tips) with Mike Chytráček

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Mike Chytráček talks about “Lucee Migration (8 CFML code moving tips)” in this episode of ColdFusion Alive Podcast with host Michaela Light.

“…but we had migrated everything over and all new clients went to Lucy all new applications went to Lucy. And within I'd say maybe two years, we had probably 95% of our clients might get it off, some clients still required it”.

Show notes

What is Lucee?

Why did you migrate to Lucee?

  • 2018 switch from ACF  to Lucee
  • Adobe Licensing fishing call and new licensing model per application with $10ks extra cost.
    • “SaaS” due to Mura
    • Per core licensing beyond 2.
  • Easy trial migration. 
    • Faster too!
    • Worked great with both MS-SQL and MySQL
  • 95% clints moved to Lucee

5% don’t understand open source or the support model

Challenges with the migration

  • Unsupported tags
    • CFfileupload
    • CFPDF
    • Websockets
    • CFspreadsheet
  • Arrays and structs passed by reference in Lucee (vs by value)
  • Scope overwriting for URL scope
  • ORM
    • Fixed by removing the ORM and replacing with straight SQL
  • How Java classes are handled and created
    • OSGI
  • EHcache
    • Requires setup
  • PDFs
    • Using wkHTML2PDF and JPG pixel perfect
    • Via CFexecute
  • Json keys – Linux and Windows – case issue – ACF uppercases the keys, Lucee keps original case

Results of the migration

  • CF Admin per site
  • Mura and Masa CMS built on Lucee
    • Themes and page builder
  • Preside CMS
  • Ortus Box tools
  • Cost
    • Esp with more cores
    • Cloud easy – no licensing issue
  • Faster to “buy” – no wait on licensing portal of ACF
  • Runs faster
    • Smaller install / load profile
  • Support – via Slack or Lucee forums
  • Less server issues with Lucee than ACF recently
  • Regular (monthly) Lucee point update, easy rollback

Why are you proud to use CF?

WWIT to make CF more alive this year?

What are you looking forward to at CF Summit?

  • CF and AI
  • CF Camp

CF IDE ideas. AI thoughts. 

 

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Bio

Mike Chytráček

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Mike first taught himself how to program on the Commodore 64 he received as a Christmas present in 1984.  He was soon fascinated by the concept that you could plug your computer into a phone line and have the computer connect to other computers where you could meet new people and share ideas.

 It only seemed like a natural progression when he first discovered the internet in 1994.  While simultaneously nurturing an IT career, he learned how to develop applications for the internet While working for a Chicago area dealership, he launched one of the first car dealership websites in the area (for 1998) and the only dealership that had it's inventory listed and updated daily.  In 2000 he went to work for a small development company, SGSNet, in the Chicago area where he met future partner, Jeff Meister, and worked with clients like Ty, Gatorade, Carr Futures and Wilton Industries.  In 2003 that small company was bought by Whittman-Hart, and by 2005 Mike and Jeff left Whittman-Hart to form Ignite Solutions and many clients followed them; Wilton Industries, Quaker/Gatorade, Dehnco to name a few.

Mike is married with two children and in his spare time enjoys music, reading and spending as much time fishing the surf in the outer banks of North Carolina.

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Interview transcript

Michaela Light 0:01
Welcome back to the show. I'm here with Mike Chaya tech are gonna total balls up your name there. So how do you pronounce it? It's a Triassic. SCI Triassic. It's like a silent that sounds so sci fi and modern.

Yeah, that's how you pronounce it here wouldn't be how do you pronounce it or my grandparents pronounced it? Oh, so we'll talk about that a little later where it comes from. But this episode, we're going to be talking about Lucy migration and the adventures you had when you migrated a whole bunch of apps from Adobe ColdFusion, to Lucy, and lots of tips and tricks for people who are thinking of doing that. And some tools you can use to make your life easier for some of the challenges that come with it. And we'll we'll talk about why you migrated and the benefits you got from it. So welcome, Mike. Thanks for having me. And Mike has been doing cold fusion for more or less forever.

He got started programming on a Commodore 64. I don't think they've ever had ColdFusion run on a Commodore 64. But they probably should do. I'm sure. Brad would would be keen to get it running there. He's got it running on a Raspberry Pi.

Mike Chytráček 1:12
Well, if you can get it running on 64k A memory, I'd be really asked, I'd be impressed to well, you know, they've been making the Lucy, you know, install smaller, and it's down to about 50 megabytes. So yeah, 64k might be a bit of a challenge. But maybe someone listening is up for that challenge. But you now have a cold fusion consulting company calls ignite solutions, and you help our clients with their cold fusion apps. And you've also got two children and you enjoy playing. Do you play music? Or you listen to music? I wasn't quite sure from your bio. I'm not most of us music, mostly. But I'm not very good. Oh, well, maybe maybe 2024 Is the you will become better guitar you never know.

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Michaela Light is the host of the CF Alive Podcast and has interviewed more than 100 ColdFusion experts. In each interview, she asks "What Would It Take to make CF more alive this year?" The answers still inspire her to continue to write and interview new speakers.

Michaela has been programming in ColdFusion for more than 20 years. She founded TeraTech in 1989. The company specializes in ColdFusion application development, security and optimization. She has also founded the CFUnited Conference and runs the annual State of the CF Union Survey.

 

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