Contents
- Server Environment
- Your Environment
- Frameworks and Methodology
- Tools
- Your programming background
- ColdFusion Community
- Deployment
- Wrap up
- I need to implement CI/CD with my 8 person CF team.
- It is not always clear whether the questions only target CF related work. E.g. in the company I work for we also use other tech stacks besides CF. I restricted my answers to CF only. Note that I chose CFCamp as an event I'd like to attend, though it most probably won't happen this year.
- I you note from my responses I am lacking in training
- Keep up the great work!
- I am enjoying my work, because I am a ColdFusion developer!!!
- Many thanks, Michaela! Saw survey / raffle on LinkedIn just this morning, and it looked quite relevant to my current exploration. Glad I found it, and I’m looking forward to seeing the survey results. The last 12 years have been a different kind of learning for me, but unfortunately not conducive to keeping up with all the amazing stuff happening in the CF world. Complicated… most of those years were spent working under a “CF is dead” believer while I kept a suite of core business-critical CF apps as alive, maintainable, relevant and refactored as I could under the circumstances - even building new ones as required and pushing the learning envelope as far as I could to build them as responsibly as possible. So sad to think how much better some of them could be doing right now, if there had been support for keeping up with advances in testability, among other things. But that’s in the past now, and I am looking forward to a significant skills makeover that is only just beginning!
- The license fee is too expensive. Divide the cost according to the modules installed, eg. the module for managing an Oracle db could be more expensive than the one for MySQL and where is the Adobe VS Code for CFML ?
- I've been using cf since 1998 but took a couple of years off and recently came back in.
- thanks for providing this and helping the CF community
- Reposition anchor used in page URLs such that progress indicator is visible on onscreen after every page load. As it is now users do not see the progress indicator after page load. I was actually typing out "add a progress indicator" but then double-checked and found there is one it is just never displayed onscreen while taking the survey...unless you scroll up after every page load. TIA
- ColdFusion tech support has become a joke. It is practically non-existent. Support emails mostly don't receive a response. Support calls go unanswered and no callbacks. I have zero confidence I could resolve an issue in a reasonable timeframe. It makes me very nervous to run an on-prem CF server. Thankfully I have very few CF problems. It just runs. Still, it feels like I'm playing with fire.
- Thank you for being a large part of a community dedicated to not only keeping coldfusion current and active, but evolving and improving. This survey is just one small example of the types of engagments our sub-industry needs. And taking this survey brought some attention to things I can do personally/professionally to improve within CFML and things I can guide our company into doing as we push ourselves to revise and improve our environment and value to our clients and customers. Cheers.
- I find the CF community has gotten snobby. You can't post questions without someone jumping down your throat or making you feel like an idiot. Should take some lessons from the Python community. The fact that we don't have a decent IDE is mind-boggling. CF Studio was the best. CFB is a joke.
- thanks for the survey. i though cf is dead 😀
- Thanks for doing this annually.
- I actually learned a lot from your survey because it listed several options that I did not know existed for certain areas like hosting. I was surprised to find AWS on your list of hosts. I wrote a CMS platform to be much like Wordpress, but in ColdFusion, and MUCH more user friendly. Our clients are doctors, lawyers, small shops, small businesses, and a few larger corporations - we program their custom back-office software and online classes for their clients who need to take their classes. These clients don't know or care what language we do it in, as long as they can update their website themselves. Most turn to us when Wordpress scares them off because our CMS platform is so much more user friendly than Wordpress. We have 300 on our CF CMS now. We run 3 CF servers, one for our CMS, and 3 more for clients using our custom back office CF software. Another 300 or so on Wordpress, linux VPS. Thank you for doing this for ColdFusion! I'm not a public speaker but I certainly care whether ColdFusion survives or now. My corporation depends on it. I will do what I can from here to help you change the image people have of ColdFusion as a first choice solution. Thank you! Kristi
- Can't thank you enough for helping to change the perception of ColdFusion. I have too many clients asking if ColdFusion is still a thing. Can't thank Adobe enough for continuing to offer ColdFusion new releases and upgrades. I would be out of business if they ever gave up on ColdFusion. It hurts to see Google searches asking if ColdFusion is dead. I will do what I can from here to help you change that perception. ColdFusion is the best language out there, not just because I know it inside-out, but because I can use 1-2 lines of code in CF for what takes a book of code to do in PHP. CF is truly remarkable and worth the licensing cost. I think Adobe could do more marketing around the latest ColdFusion releases and the great product ColdFusion is. If they would not only support new development but also help change people's perception of it I think it greatly help your effort to keep ColdFusion relevant. Not only relevant but the best way to go! ColdFusion has a "reputation" as being a big headache with support people at hosting companies. When you say "ColdFusion" in a support ticket they run away. Adobe must do more to help hosting companies train support staff in ColdFusion and promote what a great product it is. Support people must feel confident with it and ready to help. When hosting companies feel more comfortable with ColdFusion, they will quit advising people to avoid it, and will encourage people to use it. Adobe's influence there would really help! They should not only continue to support new CF releases, but to use their influence to change the wrong perceptions of ColdFusion out there. They must help erase the bad "press", and come out whole-heartedly and let it be known they are proud of this product and and it is the best way to go today. They could do more to train the younger generations in CF by helping Universities, colleges and trade schools offer classes in CF and let them know there is much demand for more CF developers in the workplace. I'll do my part from here too. THANK YOU for doing this work. I hope this union can convince Adobe to do more to get young people trained and in love with CF and help companies to realize the value in it today. Thank you again, Kristi
- Not suggestions , but I interested to learn lot of things in colfudion but I don't know how to start, please you can suggest me for good resources and path
- Join the CF Alive revolution
Below are the partial results to date for the 2022 State of the CF Union survey. If you missed the survey you can take it here. See how you compare with other CFML developers. Discover what most developers use for tools, languages, database and development methods.
Can you help? If you have a blog, are on a ColdFusion list, LinkedIn, Facebook, Google group please share the survey so that we can get a more complete picture of the current State of the CF Union. Thanks!
And if you have not yet taken this years survey you can do so here.
Server Environment
1. What version of CFML Engine do you use? (Check all that apply)
Others
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No entries match your request. |
2. What type of CFML Engine are you running? (Check all that apply)
3. What CF Server OS are you using (Check all that apply)?
Your Environment
4. What OS do you run on your laptop/PC? (Check all that apply)
Others
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No entries match your request. |
5. What browsers/client platforms do you support in your apps? (Check all that apply)
Others
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No entries match your request. |
6. Databases you use? (Check all that apply)
Others
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No entries match your request. |
Frameworks and Methodology
7. What MVC Frameworks do you use? (Check all that apply)
Others
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No entries match your request. |
8. What ColdFusion-based CMS do you use? (Check all that apply)
Others
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No entries match your request. |
9. What JavaScript libraries do you use? (Check all that apply)
Others
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No entries match your request. |
10. What CSS frameworks do you use? (Check all that apply)
Others
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No entries match your request. |
11. What CFC dependency injection frameworks and tools do you use? (Check all that apply)
Others
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No entries match your request. |
12. Which persistence frameworks do you use? (Check all that apply)
Others
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No entries match your request. |
13. What testing and mocking frameworks do you use? (Check all that apply)
Others
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No entries match your request. |
14. What type of CF Mobile development frameworks are you using? (Check all that apply)
Others
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No entries match your request. |
15. What miscellaneous frameworks/tools are you using? (Check all that apply)
Others
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16. What CF features do you use for code reuse? (Check all that apply)
Others
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No entries match your request. |
Tools
17. What do you use for source code control? (Check all that apply)
Others
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No entries match your request. |
18. What tools/IDEs do you use? (Check all that apply)
Others
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No entries match your request. |
19. What browser Dev Tools do you use? (Check all that apply)
Others
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No entries match your request. |
20. What do you use to build REST APIs? (Check all that apply)
Others
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No entries match your request. |
21. What caching solutions are you using? (Check all that apply)
Others
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No entries match your request. |
22. Do you use Message Queues (MQ) in your CF apps? If so which one(s)? (Check all that apply)*
Others
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No entries match your request. |
Your programming background
23. How many years have you used CFML? (Check one)
24. How many years have you used OO? (Check one)
25. Other languages/environments you use? (Check all that apply)
Others
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No entries match your request. |
26. How many CF developers at your organization? (Check one)
Others
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No entries match your request. |
27. How many total employees at your organization? (Check one)
ColdFusion Community
28. How often do you attend ColdFusion User Group meetings? (Check one)
29. What CF related topics are you interested in learning this year? (Check all that apply)*
Others
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No entries match your request. |
30. What CF blogs do you read (Check all that apply)*
Others
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No entries match your request. |
31. Which CF conferences will/did you attend this year? (Check all that apply)* (Check all that apply)
Others
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No entries match your request. |
32. What online CF communities do you participate in? (Check all that apply)*
Others
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No entries match your request. |
33. CF Open Source (Check all that apply)*
Others
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No entries match your request. |
34. I listen to the CF-related channels (Check all that apply)*
Others
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No entries match your request. |
Deployment
35. What types of DEVELOPMENT setups do you use? (Check all that apply)*
Others
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No entries match your request. |
36. What types of PRODUCTION deployments do you use? (Check all that apply)*
Others
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No entries match your request. |
37. What hosting services do you use for your PRODUCTION deployments? (Check all that apply)*
Others
| Liquid web |
| site4u.nl |
| Hetzner |
| Ntirety |
| Luceeplanet |
| Hetzner |
| self-hosted |
| Host Meida |
| None |
| Ntirety |
| Godaddy |
| Self Hosted |
| We use our own servers. |
| LuceePlanet.com |
| biznet |
| Started at HostMySite, who sold to Hosting.com, who sold to Ntirety. Hostek will be my next (and only) move. Ntirety is sadly losing support knowledge on ColdFusion. |
| Ntirety (was HostMySite, sold to Hosting.com, sold to Ntirety). Hostek will be my choice if the CF knowledge at Ntirety continues to drop. |
38. What Docker Image(s) are you using, if applicable? (Check all that apply)
Others
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No entries match your request. |
39. What deployment/build tools do you use? (Check all that apply)*
Others
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No entries match your request. |
40. What monitoring tools are you using? (Check all that apply)*
Others
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No entries match your request. |
41. How do you lock down your servers for security? (Check all that apply)*
Others
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No entries match your request. |
42. Have your CF servers suffered from a hacking exploit in the last 2 years due to a CF-based vector? (Remember, this is anonymous) (Check all that apply)*
Others
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No entries match your request. |
43. Are you using or planning to use AWS Lambda (serverless) (Check all that apply)*
Others
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No entries match your request. |
44. What aspects of CF are keeping you and/or your company using it? (Check all that apply)*
Others
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No entries match your request. |
Wrap up
45. What aspects of CF are preventing you or your company from embracing CF? (Check all that apply)*
Others
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No entries match your request. |
46. What are your company’s plans for your technology stack, if any? (Check all that apply)*
If migrating FROM CFML to another language, please specify
| NodeJS + NExtJS |
| Java |
| php,laravel |
| Clojure |
| Java |
| Node/React |
| C#, .Net, the Microsoft stack |
| Python PHP Kotlin .Net |
| Moving to SAP Hybris platform |
| Asp |
| php |
| PHP |
| Node or Java |
| Node |
| PHP |
| some microsoft stuff i assume |
| We are also using Pega |
| Certain core internal apps will likely never migrate due to existing investment and CF’s high suitability for data-intensive applications. However at least half of the TOTAL codebase (most of external facing and simpler internal facing) that were 100% CF 12 years ago when I arrived, have been gradually replaced with WordPress, headless WP and React, or SharePoint (for internal) due to management beliefs and priorities. |
| Python |
| .net |
| Adding some ReactJS front end development |
| Undecided... |
| Spring boot, Angular |
| I might migrate to Node.js |
| node |
If migrating from another language TO CFML, please specify
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No entries match your request. |
47. What is your approximate salary range in USD? (Remember, this is anonymous) (Check one)
Others
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No entries match your request. |
48. What is your current arrangement for CF work? (Check all that apply)*
Others
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No entries match your request. |
49. What industry is your company in? (Check all that apply)*
Others
| I make ColdFusion web applications and websites based on CF |
| Architecture, Construction, Engineering |
| marketing |
50. Any additional comments/suggestions for the survey?
I need to implement CI/CD with my 8 person CF team.
I you note from my responses I am lacking in training
Keep up the great work!
I am enjoying my work, because I am a ColdFusion developer!!!
Many thanks, Michaela! Saw survey / raffle on LinkedIn just this morning, and it looked quite relevant to my current exploration. Glad I found it, and I’m looking forward to seeing the survey results. The last 12 years have been a different kind of learning for me, but unfortunately not conducive to keeping up with all the amazing stuff happening in the CF world. Complicated… most of those years were spent working under a “CF is dead” believer while I kept a suite of core business-critical CF apps as alive, maintainable, relevant and refactored as I could under the circumstances - even building new ones as required and pushing the learning envelope as far as I could to build them as responsibly as possible. So sad to think how much better some of them could be doing right now, if there had been support for keeping up with advances in testability, among other things. But that’s in the past now, and I am looking forward to a significant skills makeover that is only just beginning!
The license fee is too expensive. Divide the cost according to the modules installed, eg. the module for managing an Oracle db could be more expensive than the one for MySQL and where is the Adobe VS Code for CFML ?
I've been using cf since 1998 but took a couple of years off and recently came back in.
thanks for providing this and helping the CF community
Reposition anchor used in page URLs such that progress indicator is visible on onscreen after every page load. As it is now users do not see the progress indicator after page load. I was actually typing out "add a progress indicator" but then double-checked and found there is one it is just never displayed onscreen while taking the survey...unless you scroll up after every page load. TIA
ColdFusion tech support has become a joke. It is practically non-existent. Support emails mostly don't receive a response. Support calls go unanswered and no callbacks. I have zero confidence I could resolve an issue in a reasonable timeframe. It makes me very nervous to run an on-prem CF server. Thankfully I have very few CF problems. It just runs. Still, it feels like I'm playing with fire.
Thank you for being a large part of a community dedicated to not only keeping coldfusion current and active, but evolving and improving. This survey is just one small example of the types of engagments our sub-industry needs. And taking this survey brought some attention to things I can do personally/professionally to improve within CFML and things I can guide our company into doing as we push ourselves to revise and improve our environment and value to our clients and customers. Cheers.
I find the CF community has gotten snobby. You can't post questions without someone jumping down your throat or making you feel like an idiot. Should take some lessons from the Python community.
The fact that we don't have a decent IDE is mind-boggling. CF Studio was the best. CFB is a joke.
The fact that we don't have a decent IDE is mind-boggling. CF Studio was the best. CFB is a joke.
thanks for the survey. i though cf is dead 😀
Thanks for doing this annually.
I actually learned a lot from your survey because it listed several options that I did not know existed for certain areas like hosting. I was surprised to find AWS on your list of hosts.
I wrote a CMS platform to be much like Wordpress, but in ColdFusion, and MUCH more user friendly. Our clients are doctors, lawyers, small shops, small businesses, and a few larger corporations - we program their custom back-office software and online classes for their clients who need to take their classes.
These clients don't know or care what language we do it in, as long as they can update their website themselves. Most turn to us when Wordpress scares them off because our CMS platform is so much more user friendly than Wordpress. We have 300 on our CF CMS now. We run 3 CF servers, one for our CMS, and 3 more for clients using our custom back office CF software. Another 300 or so on Wordpress, linux VPS.
Thank you for doing this for ColdFusion! I'm not a public speaker but I certainly care whether ColdFusion survives or now. My corporation depends on it. I will do what I can from here to help you change the image people have of ColdFusion as a first choice solution.
Thank you!
Kristi
Kristi
Can't thank you enough for helping to change the perception of ColdFusion. I have too many clients asking if ColdFusion is still a thing.
Can't thank Adobe enough for continuing to offer ColdFusion new releases and upgrades. I would be out of business if they ever gave up on ColdFusion.
It hurts to see Google searches asking if ColdFusion is dead. I will do what I can from here to help you change that perception.
ColdFusion is the best language out there, not just because I know it inside-out, but because I can use 1-2 lines of code in CF for what takes a book of code to do in PHP. CF is truly remarkable and worth the licensing cost.
I think Adobe could do more marketing around the latest ColdFusion releases and the great product ColdFusion is. If they would not only support new development but also help change people's perception of it I think it greatly help your effort to keep ColdFusion relevant. Not only relevant but the best way to go!
ColdFusion has a "reputation" as being a big headache with support people at hosting companies. When you say "ColdFusion" in a support ticket they run away.
Adobe must do more to help hosting companies train support staff in ColdFusion and promote what a great product it is. Support people must feel confident with it and ready to help.
When hosting companies feel more comfortable with ColdFusion, they will quit advising people to avoid it, and will encourage people to use it.
Adobe's influence there would really help! They should not only continue to support new CF releases, but to use their influence to change the wrong perceptions of ColdFusion out there.
They must help erase the bad "press", and come out whole-heartedly and let it be known they are proud of this product and and it is the best way to go today. They could do more to train the younger generations in CF by helping Universities, colleges and trade schools offer classes in CF and let them know there is much demand for more CF developers in the workplace.
I'll do my part from here too. THANK YOU for doing this work.
I hope this union can convince Adobe to do more to get young people trained and in love with CF and help companies to realize the value in it today.
Thank you again,
Kristi
Kristi
Not suggestions , but I interested to learn lot of things in colfudion but I don't know how to start, please you can suggest me for good resources and path
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